Are Cameron Slater and Judith Collins both bare-faced liars?
Both of them.
Here is why I ask…
In the latest revelations, information disclosed by Rawshark/Whaledump to the NZ Herald alleges in further leaked sensitive information from disgraced former Justice Minister, Judith Collins, to far-right psychopath and National Party blogger;
Former police minister Judith Collins is depicted in alleged social media conversations discussing the leak of evidence in a high profile case to blogger Cameron Slater, according to new information from the hacker Rawshark.
The alleged evidence was a video connected to the controversial Urewera raids that showed those arrested in an unfavourable light after charges against them were dropped, according to comments attributed to Slater.
The emergence of conversations between Ms Collins and Slater has sparked claims from both parties that the hacker has given the Herald manufactured forgeries.
When Herald reporter David Fisher inquired further, Collins replied;
Ms Collins said she had “no record” of “Facebook conversations” after the Herald sent her material supplied by Rawshark. “I believe you have forged documents. You are likely to have been taken in by a criminal. I am now considering lodging a complaint to police regarding what I believe to be forgeries.”
To which Fisher asked with perfect reasonableness;
When asked why she referred to Facebook when the Herald never said where the transcripts came from, she said it was the only social media outlet she used other than Twitter.
In the same report, Cameron Slater ‘tweeted’;
“Latest smear is false, I have never had FB conversations with @judithcollinsmp.”
Collins also stated, via Twitter;
“I have no record of any FB [Facebook] conversations with Whale Oil. Cam Slater has advised that he had no FB conversations with me. Forgeries?”
Let’s check the evidence, shall we?
Claim: that Facebook and Twitter are the only social media outlet she uses other than Twitter.
Truth: Collins Collins does indeed use emails, as she candidly admitted on 14 August;
“I’m just not going to go into the details because the fact is I’m perfectly entitled to send emails to a close friend of mine, and I’m absolutely entitled to be as gossipy and friendly in those as I want.”
“They talked often by phone, and in the evenings and weekends they chatted via Facebook. In work hours Collins e-mailed him directly from her sixth-floor Beehive office.”
The entire chapter 4, “The Crusher and the attack dog“, is devoted to many Facebook conversations between Collins and Slater.
“6. Judith Collins, Facebook messaging to Cameron Slater, 27 August 2011. Collins’s Facebook messaging is recorded under the name ‘Facebook User’, presumably for fear of her words reaching the public, but there is no doubt it is her.”
“What happened is Warren Tucker didn’t come to me, he went to his legal adviser and his legal advisers told him this is the process they have to follow and when he was going through that process it was at that point he told me he’d release it because he has to tell me that under the no-surprises doctrine,” – John Key, post-Cabinet press conference.
“In the context of that video, ‘me’ meant my office,” John Key, media briefing
Splitting hairs. National Party style. Cute.
It is simply not remotely credible that Collins and Slater did not converse via Facebook. As Collins admitted on 2 September, “Facebook […] was the only social media outlet [I] used other than Twitter”.
Meanwhile, it should be noted that Judith Collins’ and John Key’s media strategists have given them new lines to use in public;
“You are likely to have been taken in by a criminal.”
“At the end of the day, I don’t know whom this criminal has been hacking.”
” I don’t know what’s real and what’s not. It’s not my job to prove that.”
“The responsibility is on the criminal to demonstrate that they are actually real or not,” says Mr Key.
Expect those phrases (or variations thereof) to be repeated like Key’s latest mantra.
It is another indication how desperate National is to discredit Rawshark/Whaledump.
There must be something truly awful in the works if the Nats are expending so much effort to smear an anonymous leaker.
NZ Herald: New leak claim hits Judith Collins
Fairfax media: Key’s ‘position correct’ on SIS briefing
Above image acknowledgment: Francis Owen/Lurch Left Memes
= fs =