The 5 Eyes have won – American jurisdiction into cyberspace has been established.
Kim Dotcom is to be extradited to America where, without his wealth, he will face the full force of the State. He will appeal this afternoon.
The schadenfreude being displayed by so many on Twitter at Dotcom being renditioned to America is ugly.
NZ – a CIA client state – has done the dirty work for America and allowed corporate Hollywood the ability to claim sovereignty online.
Kim’s Lawyer was scathing…
A sad day for justice. The spite below is incomprehensible.
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A sign of times to come I’m afraid. And won’t yankee doodle psycho jonky-stien be laughing his rat face off ? ( No disrespect to actual rats. )
Perhaps a little off-topic but the disquieting thing about the Internet that I’ve never been able to shake is the notion that something so good will hurt all the more when it’s taken away for us.
In the wrong hands the Internet is a formidable control mechanism and we should never have gone beyond the point of knowing we could still function without it.
This may sound old fashioned, and call me so if you must, but I’m a bit of a fan of a simple, shortwave radio system interconnected to others . Like , you know ? Ten-Four Good Buddy and all that.
Have you seen Terry Pratchett’s “ Going Postal “ ? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1219817/
The simple reality is this.
Kim Dotcom will surely fly out. That plane must never be allowed to leave NZ soil if we feel as strongly about this as we seem to.
Otherwise ? We’ll look like dicks without balls .
You want scary? Check out PRC’s Sesame Credit scheme, going live in 2020.
He did f up the election, but the difference between Kim and Key is that Kim is human and has heart. Key is a tool of the USA.
He didn’t f up the election – the establishment nuetralised him very effectively and hardly anyone voted for the Internet Party.
Kim has gone through tough times and it has humanised him – if only John Key were given the same opportunity!
He did NOT “fuck up the Election”!…Labour fucked it up by not allowing Hone Harawira through …and it looks as if TTT voters were bribed by Lusk
In a stunning move Labour turned against Hone Harawira in the TTT electorate and effectively excluded Left party Mana winning four seats and a Left coalition winning that election…gifting it to Jonkey nactional…Mana was working for the poorest of the poor in New Zealand ….this was unforgivable by the Labour party ….and it does not deserve to be called Labour
( …and it turns out that Lusk was apparently bribing Maori not to vote for Hone Harawira !….Nash has had dealings with Lusk
‘Dirty Politics players back in the frame’
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/201779410/dirty-politics-players-back-in-the-frame
…”Simon Lusk also claimed on Story he had been instrumental in unseating Mana Party co-leader Hone Harawira in the last election. Unnamed “businessmen” had paid thousands for that, he said. And in conversation with his co-host last Monday, Duncan Garner said money had been paid to get Maori electors to vote in Te Tai Tokerau.
Was political operative Simon Lusk really paying people on behalf of clients to influence an election? Disappointingly, no more was said about this claim.The following day, Duncan Garner posted a statement from Simon Lusk on the websites of TV3’s Story and Radio Live. In it, Simon Lusk said:
Iwi now have extensive databases of members who they can easily mobilise. Assembling a team of 50 or 100 iwi members to get out the vote is straightforward, legal and effective if it is possible to raise some koha.
He added that “if you’re not paying for votes or offering anything in exchange for a vote, or treating,” it is not against the law. But that statement didn’t answer key questions: How much was paid? By whom? And for what purpose? …
…”Duncan Garner also revealed supporters of Labour’s Napier MP Stewart Nash paid Simon Lusk to canvas the option of a new political party…
Not a lot of smarts in the Labour Party these days, since the Neo Liberal take over of the Labour Party in the 1980’s they have struggled to define who they actually are and who they represent.
Hence the voter is confused what the Labour Party actually stands for, hence the missing 1.0 million voters. Labour under Roger Douglas abandoned it’s traditional support base and literally f****d them over. It was basically a reverse takeover by the ACT Party, Labour has never really recovered and still has Neo Liberals like Phil Goff within its ranks.
1000 Chooky,
Labour failed to play the political game and got outsmarted by the NatZ again, when will they wake up????
I hope the 2016 they will prepare to form strong allegiance’s with all opposition parties to banish this dictatorial NatZ Government forever.
Make. This a lession left wing scum. Keep. Your mouths shut dont question. John now you understand as does hager our rule of new zealand is by devine right we are born to rule and rule we shall
[I am, allowing this for publication to illustrate some of the rubbish we receive, have to read, and then consign to trash. Dealing with my 5,7, and 9 years olds is a cake-walk by comparison. – ScarletMod]
Learn to spell, punctuate, use correct grammar correctly and type Right is Righr. Shouldn’t your name be right is right?. I see the Natzi party paid trolls are out in force today down voting.
Pretty sure that was not actually a poster expressing their true viewpoint but was merely someone attempting a rather sad bit of satire.
Really, Gosman?! And you know this, how?
@ right is righr – despite your vicious and nasty comments, compliments of the season. Let’s hope 2016 sees you emerge as a much happier and more tolerant person.
Thank you ScarletMod for your work throughout the year. Very much appreciated.
You certainly do have your work cut out for you, if the above post is anything to go by!
Surely this is sarcasm or is R to R totally braindead.
Heil monsanto, Heil Halliburton, heil Enron, Heil Israel, Heil bilderberg and Heil to the interlocking directors who have steered everything into place and are such good minions to the teeny percent of the 1% inbreds, our new official gods of sovereignty under the tppa. Goodbye any pretence of democracy. Not fond of dotcom as an individual but he has been f*@ked over badly by key (another wall st/Fed trained minion). You know, I wouldn’t mind their rule if they actually made a decision that wasn’t ruining the planet. Hope they all get what they deserve, I am sick that we have to wait till down the track for all the skullduggery to be more widely known. Piss off military industrial complex, you screwing with my peace. Sorry son, I would have terminated if i had known the world was owned by creepy meglamaniacs…..sigh…
This was a political, not a judicial decision, with the NZ government acting on behalf of the complainant, the US government in court.
Like him or not, Kim Dotcom was obviously set up from day one, when he was allowed into NZ, despite some questions about his past.
Granting him and his family residency was the first step in FJK feeding KDC to the greedy US corporate wolves, who were after him and knew NZ was an easy place to get him! The traitor FJK complied willingly.
A very bad day for the NZ judiciary system. A shocking day for ordinary vulnerable NZ citizens and residents, without the means to put up a challenge should they be picked off and sold out to a foreign power, by one very corrupt and evil man.
The average New Zealander does not have a s**t show if he gets tangled up with the NZ Police and our Judiciary, lucky David Bain had Joe Karam to back him up, just an example.
Alas a foregone conclusion. We all knew this was going to happen. It’s all part of JK’s “Brighter Future”.
NZ a client state of the USA.
New Zealand the 52nd State of America?
53rd
The puerile simpleton who is so easily and often persuaded to make himself disgustingly ridiculous, and is not fit to be an MP let alone PM, is who should be extradited to his masters country the USA.
Kim Dotcom will continue to fight for justice and democracy and internet freedom. The US govt. and the ” 5 eyes ” won nothing but continued lack of respect with mounds of unethical behavior. The US govt. grabs Kims millions when he is not even a US citizen.
Kim is an ” INTERNET FREEDOM FIGHTER ” and is also a creative; ethical ; intelligent and caring man. He and Glenn Greenwald and Nicky Hager and Laila Harre and the Mana Party etc. and The Moment of Truth – did not ” get John Key ” in —- no that was done by the asleep; brainwashed and unaware sheeples voting him in. How many years has this idiot been at the helm and still 30%+ kids in NZ are living in poverty.
Who is the real and deserving person who should be extradited ??
Kim is supported by the masses worldwide who do not want our internet to be controlled and DO NOT WANT TO BE SPIED ON. The NZ Herald and the US govt. continues to disappoint and let us down.
lots of right wing trolls putting the thumbs down at the moment
…the Dotcom judgement MUST be concerning them mightily
…the whole world is watching this
… a corrupt USA where it seems the evidence points to politicians being bribed by Hollywood and the big corporates …taking down a little country like New Zealand ( via a corrupt ?..jonkey and judge)
….in order to persecute and prosecute a German NZ resident internet entrepreneur ( with sympathies for wikileaks and whistleblowers)
….who has done very little different from what the far larger corporates are doing in the in the USA via cloud storage
The only thing concerning me mightily about the judgement is the worry that the decision might be overturned on appeal. I live in hopes that the appellate judiciary have been well and truly ‘bought’and corrupted by the political establishment.
My regret is that the judge in the Hager case was not similarly ‘bought’.
And no I am not a right wing troll who ‘down votes’ comments. I first can’t be bothered and secondly I am a Labour voter,although I often wonder why on reading some of the comments on this site.
You welcome a corrupt judiciary, Ben? Surely I’ve mis-read your comment.
It’s called irony,Frank, which as Brian Edwards has said, New Zealanders don’t get.
Dotcom talks about corruption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=076Jplu1Abk
Sorry for such a large post, but here is a list of John Keys ‘deed’s’ and words… they can be found (and the links to every one of them) on Hackpad : Honest John.
We have a man who obviously had a hand in the whole Dotcom extradition … the same man who assaulted a woman over 6 months repeatedly and was never brought to court.
The same man who makes thinks prison rape is ‘good kiwi humour’. Its not. I wonder if he was acting in his ‘capacity of PM ‘ when he indulged in these activity’s.
It is now time to stop taking this mans actions lightly and stop all the excuses .
It is time now that John Key is called to answer for so many abuses against democracy and thus its people by independent investigation – and if needs be – which it most certainly is ,…. should be summoned to court.
We have been far too accommodating for this individual and it is time we stood up to this person who seems to make light of the misery of others and instigates the destruction of so many lives.
So here it is Hackpad : Honest John.
Think of it as a refresher for your memories to avoid time somehow softening your attitudes towards this man.
He now has to be stopped.
Copied from BLiP’s memorable blog post at The Standard, with minor updates
22 April 2013: An Honest Man? http://thestandard.org.nz/an-honest-man/
26 May 2014: Still an Honest Man http://thestandard.org.nz/still-an-honest-man/
Promises, Promises
1. I promise to always be honest
2(a). We’re not proposing to change the Employment Relations Act in a way that weakens unions
2(b). we are not going to sack public servants, the attrition rate will reduce costs
3. we are not going to cut working for families
Changing Climate Policies
4. I firmly believe in climate change and always have
5. We seek a 50% reduction in New Zealand’s carbon-equivalent net emissions, as compared to 1990 levels, by 2050. 50 by 50. We will write the target into law.
6. National Ltd™ will provide a consistent incentive for both biofuel and biodiesel by exempting them from excise tax or road user charges
Memory Faults
7. there is no truth in Nicky Hager’s book “The Hollowmen”
8. I didn’t know about The Brethren election tactics
9. If they came to us now with that proposal [re trans-Tasman Therapeutic Goods regime], we will sign it
10. I can’t remember my position on the 1981 Springbok Tour
11. Tranzrail shares
12. I did not mislead the House (1)
13. Lord Ashcroft
14. National Ltd™ would not have sent troops into Iraq
Economical with the Truth
15. Standard & Poors credit downgrade
16. the double-down grade doesn’t really matter and its only about private sector debt
17. I did not mislead the House (2)
18. I didn’t say I want wages to drop
19. I can’t remember why I voted against increasing the minimum wage
20. lifting the minimum wage to $15 an hour will increase unemployment
21. the real rate of inflation is 3.3 percent.
22. the tourism sector has not lost 7,000 jobs
23. no I have never heard of Whitechapel
24. I won’t raise GST
25. people who are on the average wage and have a child are $48 a week better off after the rise in GST
26. the purchase of farmland, by overseas buyers will be limited to ten farms per purchase
Pike River
27. the Pike River Mine was consented to under a Labour Government
28. no promises were made to get the remains of the miners out of the Pike River mine
29. I did not provide a view on the safety of the Pike River coalmine
30. I did not mislead the House (3)
Slash and Burn
31. capping, not cutting the public service
32. raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour will cost 6000 jobs
33. north of $50 a week
34. privatisation won’t significantly help the economy
35. wave goodbye to higher taxes, not your loved ones
36. I never offered Brash a diplomatic job in London
37. Tariana Turia is “totally fine” with the Tuhoe Treaty Claim deal
38. Kiwisaver
39. National Ltd™ is not going to radically reorganise the structure of the public sector
Turning the Screws
40. tax cuts won’t require additional borrowing
41. New Zealand does not have a debt problem
42. New Zealand troops in Afghanistan will only be involved in training, not fighting
43. the wage gap between New Zealand and Australia has closed under my National Ltd™ government
44. It took 9 years for Labour to make a complete and utter mess of the economy
45. National Ltd™ has changed the Overseas Investment Act to include 19 different criteria
46. the price of goods and services has risen by 6 percent since the last election, while the after-tax average wage has actually gone up by 16 percent
47. no, although its a week ago and here I am being interviewed on television about them, I havn’t seen Gerry Brownlee’s comments regarding demolitions in Christchurch and which caused such outrage, but I can talk all about them
48. our SAS soldiers were not involved in the Kabul Hotel gunfight
Joy Rides and Holidays
49. the use of the Vela brother’s helicopter was required so I could attend meetings relating to national/international security concerns
50. the DPS makes the decision about accompanying the Prime Minister or not, I had no choice but to take them on holiday to Hawaii
51. I did not mislead the House (4)
Numbers Do Not Matter
52. oh, maybe our SAS soldiers were in the Kabul hotel gun fight but they weren’t wounded by friendly fire
53. New Zealand has lost $12 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . oh, it might actually be around $15 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . Blinglish said what?
54. 10,000 houses will have to be demolished in Christchurch due to the earthquake
55. 14,000 new apprentices will start training over the next five years, over and above the number previously forecast
Hot Air Emissions
56. our amendments to the ETS ensure we will continue to do our fair share internationally
57. we are committed to honouring our Kyoto Protocol obligations
58. any changes to the ETS will be fiscally neutral
Making up more Numbers
59. New Zealand has grown for eight of the last nine quarters”
60. National Ltd™ will tender out the government banking contract
61. we will be back in surplus by 2014-15
62. Nicky Hager’s book “Other People’s Wars” is a work of fiction
63. unemployment is starting to fall
64. we have created 60,000 jobs
65. we have created 45,000 jobs
66. the 2011 Budget will create in the order of 170,000 jobs
Whoops
67. I don’t know if I own a vineyard
68. no, I did not mislead the House (5)
69. the Israeli spy killed in the Christchurch quake had “only one” passport
70. the Police will not need to make savings by losing jobs
71. I voted to keep the drinking age at 20
72. New Zealand is 100% Pure
73. I’ve been prime minister for four years, and it’s really 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year
74. baseball in New Zealand is attracting more government support
Bizarre BMW Bull
75. the decision to buy brand new BMWs was made by the Department of Internal Affairs without reference either to their minister or to me
76. I didn’t have a clue that Ministerial Services, which I am in charge of, was going to buy brand new BMWs
77. even though four of my ministers knew all about it, I didn’t have a clue that brand new BMWs were being bought.
78. even though my Chief of Staff met with officials to discuss purchase of the the brand new BMWs, I didn’t have a clue
79. even though I personally signed papers discussing the matter, I still didn’t have a clue
80. Labour forced us into buying the brand new BMWs, its their fault
81. ummm, look, sorry about that BMW thing , it was because I was so upset
82. I did not describe David Beckam as thick as batshit
83. I did not mislead the House (6)
Working for Warner Bros.
84. the public demanded that we change the labour laws for The Hobbit
85. “The Hobbit” created 3000 new jobs
86. we have delivered 800 extra doctors in the public service
87. I did not mislead the House (7)
Not My Fault
88. I wasn’t working at Elders when the sham foreign exchange deals took place
89. I was starting School Certificate exams in 1978
90. I don’t know who arrived on the CIA jet to visit the spies I am responsible for
Financial Genius
91. reducing barriers to property developers will increase the availability of affordable housing
92. Labour left the economy in poor shape
93. forecasts show unemployment will fall
94. we have closed the wage gap with Australia by $27
95. Ngati Porou and Whanau Apanui are not opposed to mining
96. I have not had any meetings with Media Works
97. our [NZ’s] terms of trade remain high
98. the TPPA is an example of democracy
99. the TPPA will still have to be ratified by Parliament
100. National Ltd™ will use the proceeds of state asset sales to invest in other public assets, like schools and hospitals
101. New Zealand troops will be out of Afghanistan by April 2013
102. overseas investment in New Zealand adds to what New Zealanders can invest on their own
103. overseas investment in New Zealand creates jobs, boosts incomes, and helps the economy grow
104. National Ltd™ will build 2000 houses over the next two years
105. there are only 4 New Zealand SAS soldiers in Bamiyan and all working in the area of logistics and planning only
106. selling state assets will give cash equity to those companies
Casinos Good, DOC Bad
107. the Sky City deal will provide 1000 construction jobs and 800 casino jobs
108. all five bidders for the convention centre were treated equally
109. my office has had no correspondence, no discussions, no involvement with the Sky City deal
110. I did not mislead the House (8)
111. I can’t remember what was discussed at my meeting with the SkyCity Chief Executive on 14 May 2009
112. I have no record of the 12 November 2009 email from Treasury advising that the SkyCity deal was dodgy and needed to be referred to the Auditor General
113. there was nothing improper about the Sky City deal
114. SkyCity will only get “a few more” pokie machines at the margins
115. any changes to gambling regulations will be subject to a full public submission process
116. Sky City has approached TVNZ about the purchase/use of government-owned land
117. I did not mislead the House (9)
118. this government has been very transparent about all its dealings with SkyCity
119. I did not mislead the House (10)
120. the Auditor General has fully vindicated National over the Sky City deal
121. I did not mislead the House (11)
122. the Deputy Auditor General supports the view that there was nothing inappropriate about the Sky City deal
123. I did not mislead the House (12)
124. I did not breach the confidentiality of the Auditor General’s Report into the Sky City deal
125. the Labour Government did exactly the same sort of deal back in 2001
126. Labour has promised to not revoke the Sky City legislation
127. there’s a 50/50 chance the Hobbit is going off shore unless we do something
128. David Shearer has signed up for the purchase of shares in Mighty River
129. Solid Energy asked the government for a $1 billion capital investment
130. fracking has been going safely on in Taranaki for the past 30 years without any issues
131. no frontline positions will be lost at DOC
GCSB vs. DotCom, Journalists
132. Iain Rennie came to me and recommended Fletcher for the GCSB job
133. I told Cabinet that I knew Ian Fletcher
134. I forgot that after I scrapped the shortlist for GCSB job I phoned a life-long friend to tell him to apply for the position
135. I told Iain Rennie I would contact Fletcher
136. I haven’t seen Ian Fletcher in a long time.
137. I did not mislead the House (13)
138. I have no reason to doubt at this stage that Peter Dunne did not leak the GCSB report
139. I called directory service to get Ian Fletcher’s number
140. the new legislation narrows the scope of the GCSB
141. the GCSB has been prevented from carrying out its functions because of the law governing its functions
142. because the opposition is opposed the GCSB law ammendments, parliamentary urgency is required
143. the increasing number of cyber intrusions which I can’t detail or discuss prove that the GCSB laws need to be extended to protect prive enterprise
144. it was always the intent of the GCSB Act to be able to spy on New Zealanders on behalf of the SIS and police
145. National Ltd™ is not explanding the activities of the GCSB with this new law
146. cyber terrorists have attempted to gain access to information about weapons of mass destruction held on New Zealand computers
147. the law which says the GCSB cannot spy on New Zealanders is not clear
148. it totally incorrect that the Government effectively through GCSB will be able to wholesale spy on New Zealanders
149. we self identified that there was a problem with the GCSB spying on Kim Dotcom
150. the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was an isolated incident
151. The advice I have had in 4 years as a Minister is that in no way ever has there been an indication of unlawful spying
152. the Ministerial Warrant signed by Bill English did not cover anything up
153. I wasn’t briefed about the raid on Kim Dotcom’s home.
154. first I heard I heard about Kim Dotcom was on 19 January 2012
155. first I heard about the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was in 17 September 2012
156. I did not mislead the House (14)
157. I won’t be discussing Kim Dotcom during my Hollywood visit.
158. The Human Rights Commission couldn’t get its submission on the GCSB legislation in on time.
159. it would cost too much to for the police and SIS to carry out the spying on New Zealanders that this new legislation will permit
160. critics of the GCSB legislation, including the Law Society, the Human Rights Commission, and the Privacy Commission, are all uninformed
161. no, I did not mislead the House (15)
162. I do not know how Mr Henry is conducting the Enquiry
163. no, I did not mislead the House (16)
164. the Henry Enquiry had permission to view Ministers’ emails
165. no, I did not mislead the House (??)
166. we do not spy on journalists
167. the passing of phone records to the Henry Enquiry was an error on the part of a contractor
168. I wasn’t aware that my own Chief of Staff was instructing Parliamentary Services to hand over information concerning journalist Andrea Vance
169. National Ltd™ has never tried to impinge on the role of the media
170. I had nothing to do with information on a journalist being handed over to the inquiry into the leaking of the GCSB report
171. the terms of the enquiry made it clear to everyone that it was only the phone records of parliamentary staff and ministers that were to be provided
172. I have the utmost respect for the media and the role it plays in New Zealand’s democracy
173. the Henry Enquiry did not access a journalist’s building-access records
174. the Henry Enquiry did not ask for phone and email records
175. no, I did not mislead the House (17)
176. the Greens are opposed to the GCSB and the SIS even existing
177. the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because there are al-Qaeda terrorists in New Zealand
178. the GCSB is not sharing meta-data with the NSA
179. John Minto is in the Green Party
180. the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because of the terrorist threat, even though official reports released over my signature say there is no risk and the SIS has the matter in hand
181. the GCSB Bill does not give the GCSB the power to look at the content of communications as part of its cyber-security functions
182. no, I did not mislead the House (18)
183. Edward Snowden hacked into the NSA data base to obtain the documents which show details of the GCSB setting up a mass surveillance system
184. I will release documents which show that an operation to provide mass surveillance data only ever made it to the business plan stage.
185. Ummm . . . now that people are paying attention, the programme got underway but I stopped in in March 2013 or, askshully, it might have been September 2013.
186. Kim Dotcom is paying Glenn Greenwald to come to New Zealand
187. There’s no ambiguity. No middle ground. I’m right and Glenn Greenwald is wrong,
Trickle Down Theory
188. there will be no mining on Conservation land in the Coromandel
189. no, I did not say we would follow the US and Australia into a war against North Korea
190. New Zealand has an arrangement to have asylum seekers processed in Australian detention camps
191. I did not mislead the house (19)
192. I paid for that lunch and I’ve got the credit card bill to prove it
193. I am honest and upfront
194. the only way net new jobs can be created is by private investors putting their money into businesses in New Zealand
195. you can’t hide if you’re Prime Minister
196. an increase in the number of people looking for work indicates that confidence is returning to the economy
197. the 10 percent of taxpayers in New Zealand who are the top earners pay 76 percent of all net personal tax.
198. I did not mislead the House (20)
199. Aaron Gilmore was one of a number of people in a group who were badly behaved
200. the substantial wage growth under Labour was eroded by inflation
201. National Ltd™’s 2010 tax changes were fiscally neutral
202. I did not mislead the House (21)
203. the bulk of New Zealanders earn between $45,000 and $75,000 a year
204. Pike River Coal did not put profits and its production ahead of the safety and lives of those 29 workers.
Sound Bites
205. Radio Live had sought advice from the Electoral Commission about my show just before the election
206. it is because of National Ltd™’s policies that the price of fresh fruit and vegetables has dropped.
207. the length-of-the-country cycleway will create 4000 jobs.
208. police training for next year has not been cancelled
209. National Ltd™ has only cut back-office jobs in the health service
210. The Crown’s dividend stream from the Meridians, the Mighty Rivers of the world is large and there is no motivation to sell assets; actually we’re about creating assets not selling assets.”
211. National believes employment law should treat all parties fairly. It should . . . Protect employees and employers.
212. I am not trying to tackle such issues in a “fearful” way ahead of the next election
213. Wellington City is dying.
214. National Ltd™ has been working on a number of things with New Zealand First on a number of things one of which has a financial component but I can’t talk about it
215. the best way to get growth in the economy is to reduce public debt
216. New Zealand mum and dad investors will be our number one priority in the allocation of Mighty River shares
217. we won’t let “cowboy” oil exploration companies operate here in New Zealand
Lefty Scaremongering
218. the Green Party is racist by not allowing Chinese residents in New Zealand to buy a house
219. the Labour Party is promising a four-bedroom house in Auckland for $300,000
220. the food in schools programme is in the 2013 budget
221. the meat exports are being held up in China because of issues in relation to the Chinese looking to trace counterfeit meat
222. its notoriously difficult to win three elections in a row
223. I am deeply concerned about every child in New Zealand who is in poverty
224. there is no manufacturing crisis in New Zealand
225. the government’s exposure to MediaWorks’ going into receivership is reasonably limited
226. the money from the sale of state assets will not be used to prop up Solid Energy
227. I don’t see a place for a Winston Peters-led New Zealand First in a government that I lead. It’s not a matter of political convenience, it’s a matter of political principle.
228. The vast majority of the buildings in Christchurch came through the earthquakes in good shape
229. the commemoration of New Zealand’s involvement in the Korean War will not be used to bolster trade talks
230. third generation Chinese New Zealanders will be required to present their passport before buying a house under the Labour government
231. the Labour housing policy is an attempt by David Shearer to save his leadership
232. the Labour housing policy is in breach of free trade agreements
233. only 2% of the proceeds of the sale of Mighty River will be spent on the sales process
234. David Cunliffe is lying to you
235. Labour wants to nationalise the super market industry
Corporations Need Cash
236. The government will engage in no further negotiations with Rio Tinto
237. Without a government subsidy of hundreds of millions of dollars Chorus will go broke
238. No, I did not mislead the House (??)
239. the justice system is already adequate for handling situations involving new evidence
240. my Minister Nick Smith was not aware of the content of the leaked draft submission on the Ruataniwha situation until 17 September
241. New Zealand First will nationalise a host of industries and businesses
242. I have no responsibility for the statements I make
243. Mark Mitchell was just gossiping at a cocktail party when he tipped Webster off about Len Brown’s affair
244. it was a lack of external analysis and accountability which put Solid Energy into its debt crisis
245. the Commerce Commission misinterpreted the law when deciding the price for access to the Chorus copper infrastructure
246. no analyst predicted that the cost of access to the copper infrastructure would go down
Drilling Down To Lower Wages
247. there has been only one problem with oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico
248. If it was my vote, it would be no pay increases for Mps
249. Greenpeace are just scare mongering about any oil leaks off the New Zealand coast
250. For every election for the last five elections , we have had royal visitors to New Zealand.
251. No decision has been made on the timing of the sale of Air New Zealand shares
252. its not true that in New Zealand the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer
253. This summer is the most active season ever for oil and gas exploration, with the industry spending up to $750 million. At the same time, the Government is strengthening the regulations that govern drilling, particularly in deep water.
Family Matters
254. Labour is trying to mislead people about eligibility for Best Start because they don’t get the payment while they also get paid parental leave.
255. A mountain of evidence shows that the quality of teaching – inside the classroom – is the biggest influence on kids’ achievement
256. Governor General Jerry Mateparae has been jostled while walking onto Te Tii Marae at Waitangi .
257. Cameron Slater, who I speak to regularly and who told me about Winston meeting Kim Dot Com, has got absolutely nothing to do with the National Party.
258. Cameron Slater rang me
259. What I do know is that when this Government came in, there were predictions that unemployment would rise to over 10 percent.
Oravida and the Crusher
260. The Cabinet Office had cleared Judith Collins of a conflict of interest
261. The golf tournament in which I played the chairman of Oravida was for charity.
262. The Cabinet Office has cleared Collins of a conflict of interest after it translated comments on Oravida’s website which stated that she had praised its products
263. My Justice Minister, Judith Collins, didn’t lie to Parliament, she just didn’t understand the question.
264. The [MFAT] paperwork shows right through this that not only did the Minister have a very busy programme, all on judicial and justice issues, but, secondly, all the way through it talks about a private dinner.
265. No, I did not mislead parliament. (??)
266. No, I did not mislead the House(??)
Evil Lefty Plots
267. The Unions decide the leadership of the Labour Party and picked David Cunliffe
268. Unions give the Labour Party millions of dollars a year
269. The economic mess inherited by the Abbott government in Australia can be likened to the economic mess inherited by National Ltd™ when it came into office in 2008.
270. National Ltd™ inherited an economic mess from Labour
271. National Ltd™ inherited an economic mess from Labour in 2008
272. No, I did not mislead the House(??)
273. Twelve percent of New Zealand households pay 76 percent of all net tax in New Zealand
274. National Ltd™ ignored the plight of babies living in the poorest famililies because there is other assistance available
Laissez-Faire Leadership
275. the Malaysian government declined to waive diplomatic immunity for the man charged with burglary and attempted rape
276. the UN officials visiting down south are focusing on sustainable agriculture
277. I would apologise to the woman if I knew who she was
278. My government has led the charge on the transparency of MPs’ spending
279. Only 1 percent of New Zealand farm land is in foreign ownership
280. Internet Mana put together the video depicting a burning effigy of me.
281. Under National Ltd™ the prison population has gone down.
Dirty Politics
282. National Ltd™ has been nowhere near the Labour party computer system
283. The OIA request to the SIS about Phil Goff’s briefing on the Israeli spies had nothing to do with my office.
284. National Ltd™ talks to the blogs exactly the same way we talk to the MSM
285. The allegations in Nicky Hager’s book are all wrong.
286. Nicky Hager has got nothing to prove any of the allegations.
287. All this stuff in “Dirty Politics” is coming from the left.
288. National Ltd™ is not using blogs as attack sites any more than anyone would do
289. The release of “Dirty Politics” is part of a coordinated attack from the left because it is unable to win the discussion on the issues that matter.
290. Very little of the book “Dirty Politics” is about me.
291. Most of the assumptions and allegations made by Nicky Hager in “Dirty Politics” are dissolving before his eyes.
292. All of Nicky Hager’s allegations are unravelling.
293. Nicky Hager didn’t check the facts before publishing “Dirty Politics
294. When National came into office the economy was in tatters.
295. Over the last year an extra 84,000 jobs were created.
296. In our party we believe in supporting families.
297. The Greens have two co-leaders who want to be co-deputy-prime ministers in some kind of bizarre job-sharing experiment.
298. Internet-Mana put the burning effigy video together (DUPE of #280)
299. No one other than Cameron Slater asked for the SIS document confirming that Phil Goff had been briefed on the Israeli spies in Christchurch.
300. I wasn’t informed that the SIS was going to release the information about the Israeli spies in Christchurch to Cameron Slater.
2014 Election
301. Under Labour, family homes held in a trust will attract the Capital Gains Trust
302. More than 300,000 New Zealanders have their homes held in a trust
303. (empty due to editing error)
304. There will be no more asset sales #link ?
305. David Seymour did not ask for a Ministerial position with the National Party
306. There will be no New Zealand military intervention in Iraq, barring an unlikely United Nations Security Council mission.
307. The New Zealand military personnel are just attending a regular ordinary meeting in the United States (x 13 times)
308. New Zealand is not involved in any coalition to fight in the Middle East
309. It is not currently illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group
Dirty Politics (2)
310. When it comes to requests for official information, my ministers always act within the law.
311. I have never called or texted Cameron Slater in my capacity as Prime Minister
312. No, I did not mislead the House. #(??)
313. I did not admit to having abused the OIA process.
314. I did not mislead the House. #(??)
315. The Gwynn Report into the handling of OIA requests by the SIS completely exonerated me
316. Its not true that the process I put in place for the SIS reporting to me was politicised
317. The review into Judith Collins has got nothing to do with the release of information to Cameron Slater
318. My office had nothing to do with the release of information to Cameron Slater
319. No, I did not mislead the House #(??)
320. I can’t remember all the phone texts I exchanged except when I say I can
321. I did not engage in an exchange of text messages with Cameron Slater, I just acknowledged one unsolicited message from him
322. The DPMC head attended the Roger Sutton PR conference because his department is taking over Cera next year.
323. New Zealand was one of the very few countries in the world that were settled peacefully.
324. I was being asked a specific question about the Chisholm report when I said I had had not contact with Cameron Slater
325. No, I did not mislead the House
326. When the particular question was asked there was quite a lot of noise in the house and so I genuinely only heard the first bit.
327. I have not been in contact with Cameron Slater ahead of the release of Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Cheryl Gwyn’s report into the SIS’s role in Slater’s 2011 political attack on former Labour Leader Phil Goff.
328. No, I did not mislead the House #(??)
Lower Standards
329. The number of children in those low decile schools which I have visited who actually require lunch is the odd one or two
330. My office was advised in late January 2015 that Mike Sabin was resigning
Far out, that is some rap sheet
Well done WK, for keeping the scurrilous activities of FJK and his despotic mobsters out there, to remind us all of just how low NZ has sunk, by allowing this piece of scum and his rotten followers to continue.
It should be FJK and his corrupt gang who should be held accountable for their treason against NZ!
WK I wish you and yours the compliments of the season. Many thanks for the good debates you have put up throughout the year. Looking forward to more of the same in 2016. Take good care 🙂
Thank you very much …and to you and all the good people who write on this blog,- and to all Kiwi’s as well .
Take care over the festive season, people !
Enjoy life and be blessed!!!
WK, that is an incredible list and an impassioned post. Keep up the good work.
To those who thumbed you down: You are spineless and pathetic, as all you do is come on here, thumb down intelligent, insightful comments that reveal Key’s character, without having the courage of your convictions to actually comment. How weak.
As your esteemed leader Key said, “Get some guts” and leave a proper reply, instead of just downvoting people who are obviously intellectually and ethically superior to yourselves.
Very comprehensive work, Wild Katipo. The information you have shared about John Key’s statements and claims shows the dishonest, self-serving, flippant, disingenuous nature of the man. How unsurprising that his adherents will mindlessly vote down your post without having the intellectual capacity or motivation to explain why they disagree with you and the information you provided.
I challenge all the John Key sycophants to explain in writing why they disagree with Wild Katipo’s post and specify which National Government policies have benefited the majority of New Zealanders, including the most vulnerable people in our society. Please explain how New Zealand is in a better state now, socially and economically, than when National took office in late 2008. I look forward to your comments rather than you lazily continuing to merely vote down intelligent, insightful comments from Martyn Bradbury, Wild Katipo and others.
re No 315 – please identify by paragraph number where the Gwynn Report indicated any impropriety on the part of John Key?
Tut, tut, tut. A post like that would get you banned on The Standard. Provided if the world’s greatest sysop and now legal expert disagreed with you of course.
Wow. The rent-a-crowd down voters were quick today. Why don’t they don’t have the spine to share their opinions while they are here.
[There have been a few, Sander. They have generally been abusive, infantile, and always anonymous. I’ve consigned every single one to the Trash. One thing I’ve picked up from anonymous right-wingers is that they generally seem to be poorly educated (judging by their atrocious grammar/spelling) and incapable of making a coherent argument. If that is the quality of their arguments, I wonder how they manage to tie their shoe-laces in the morning. – ScarletMod]
Assuming the Herald headline is genuine, trial by media just reached a new level of blatancy.
Isn’t it poor strategy? That is, assuming the deep state just wanted to get rid of Mr Dotcom. Why run the risk of martyring him?
I don’t think people are just going to forget all about it. The five eyes just bought themselves more trouble.
It will be a happier Christmas for the honest, tax paying citizens of New Zealand to know that crook is on his way to trial.
Andrew, it’s curious that the left did not call for Donghua Liu’s head-on-a-platter, despite his involvement in the smearing of David Cunliffe’s reputation with false allegations and an twelve-year old, obscure letter.
Then again, Right wingers like you do vendetta’s far more superbly than we ever could.
Frank, nice try at a red herring, but no cigar.
Stick to the topic. This thread is about Kim Dotcom and his extradition.
This whole episode should have been purely a criminal matter but he tried to pervert the course of justice by using his money to influence the outcome of our democratic process.
Sadly for your ilk, that dirty money was sloshed around in the left wing sphere and several contributors here on the Daily Blog need to take a hard look at themselves and their values.
As a testament to the good sense of the majority of voters, most saw straight through both Kim’s and Nicky’s attempts to derail our democratic process and voted accordingly.
Kim Dotcom will continue to fight for internet freedom; privacy rights and justice.
He did not give the election to John Key just as the “Moment of Truth” and Glenn Greenwald and Nicky Hager and Laile Harre and The Mana party etc. did not give anything to our trainwreck PM – it was the asleep and uneducated sheeples that did that one. Now 30%+ of kids in NZ live in poverty so who should really be extradited here ?
Kim is an ” internet freedom fighter ” and it was the US Govt. that grabbed his millions and he is not even a US citizen. His fight is our fight for democracy and internet ethics. Shame on the NZ Herald for painting a very biased version of that whole event and swaying towards the best interests of John Key ; the US and the 5 eyes. We have to create our own justice because most justice systems are very often ineffective and unfair and many times unethical. As we know, judges and governments can be bought and dictated to. Good luck Kim, many worldwide are on your side and see right through the massive truckloads of BS and propaganda.
Key was selected by Michelle Boag and the Natzi’s to complete the sale of NZ Inc and finalise the Neo Liberal Experiment here in NZ, he is an adopted protege of the Jewish Bankers and the Federal Reserve in the USA.
Unfortunately most New Zealanders do not have the ability to read between the lines, and MSM here in NZ are too frightened to report the facts hence the demise of John Campbell and Nicky Hager.
Similar to Germany in the 1930’s.
I carry the District Court decision with much reticent and dark disquiet.
Kim DC. is a resident of New Zealand with the civil rights and protection that go with that, and New Zealand please don’t give me the knee jerk response that I expect will ensue.
His protection under our Sovereignty has been sadly violated, and whilst he may be a ” pirate?? ” ( and I do pirates )
This is the TPPA at work and the key problem here is that the ilk of MGM et al won this skirmish, but not the fight.
Kim Dotcom and his fellow ” scoundrels ???(,? I don’t think they are) need a fair deal on this one. That can only be done , I believe in the High Court.
Come on, it is not yet over, the justice system allows appeals, and Kim Dotcom already announced that he will appeal. There are many questions though. Extradition hearings only need to establish that there are valid reasons for extraditing a person, as valid charges deserve to be answered. There are at the same times questions of law, which Kim’s lawyers have already mentioned, not going into detail. So a District Court Judge may have his reasons and considerations, they can though be challenged. That will happen.
I think that honestly Kim Dotcom’s chances are not great, but there is still a chance that a High Court will overrule the District Court decision, and things can move from there.
My view of Kim Dotcom is not a favourable one, he is primarily only interested in his own fate and future, and a fair few have attested to this. But he does at the same time deserve justice. The raid on his mansion years ago was an appalling breach of justice, in my view, an abuse of executive powers, but we were told later that most of the actions were “justified” (courts ruled).
This is not primarily about the Five Eyes network, that is a construct, it is about justice, ok, but the Five Eyes are having other things to answer to, which they avoid doing, which is assisted by this government.
Obfuscation, dishonesty, concealing the truth and outright lies are what we have learned this government to engage in. So, yes, many questions need answering, more research needs to be done, but I would be careful to mix things up, as Kim Dotcom’s “issues” are commercial interest based ones, which Hollywood powers are not going to give up. And the US prosecution is on their side, as what Hollywood produces and has in copyright, that is to them of “national interest”, similar to what Key and Co consider the local film industry and some other activities to be.
And as that is so, forget trying to get any revelations per OIA or so, as that will not be covered by the Act.
I look forward to more court hearings next year, and we will see who will come out on top. By the way, how are the other accused going to proceed? I heard they are not acting alongside Dotcom, as they have kind of broken away, and pursue their own goals now.
The are too many murky aspects in the whole situation, I wish we would get more info and transparency, but it is up to the courts to look at what is important, and what is not.
You are dead wrong about Kim. He is very much concerned about others than himself and this is evident if you are aware and have studied him with an open mind. Look again at the MOMENT OF TRUTH transcript and get familiar with the facts and the truths about what was said that night and who funded it. An eye opening event and it went right over most peoples heads. An extremely important event gathering of brilliant minds and caring people and it was misjudged and misrepresented.
Kim is a very compassionate and honest man and clearly you, are like many others, and believe nonsense about him.
The legal system is what is a disappointment and some judges should be put out to pasture and retire which would be in everyone’ best interest.
BLAKE – I have happened to have met the man a few years ago, at a public event, and he came across as a somewhat arrogant person, able to chat about stuff, but disclosing little about himself. He has been reported on, has spoken in the odd interview with Campbell Live and others, where he is good at presenting himself, and trivialising his past.
There were stories of trades- and security persons he hired, to do work for him, who did not get paid for long times. He declared having lack of funds and drove around in flash cars, and spending up on personal matters, same as on his many legal representatives.
Kim Dotcom appears to have access to funds from his new business, and continues to employ top lawyers working on his case. He donated funds to MANA to run the last election campaign, but when asked whether he would perhaps help unemployed Maori up North to learn about IT skills and help them get work, he only spoke in ambiguous terms and would not commit to anything.
And some producers copyright was breached, technically by users of MEGA Upload, which was though also encouraged by the people behind that business, including Kim as it seems.
So some persons that made small scale movies and produced music and so, they missed out on earnings, because their stuff appeared free on the internet forum or service of MEGA Upload.
Tell me where Kim Dotcom did offer funds or other support for the poor, the homeless, the unemployed Maori up North, or whosoever, please. All I have noted is words with little or no action coming from Kim Dotcom, but all his energy and money flows into his own business and legal expenses, to defend himself, also avoiding extradition. The US may have questionable reasons with their legal actions, but so does Mr Dotcom, I fear.
I really don’t think it’s personalities that are the issue in this whole fiasco.
It’s about abuse of power by the authorities, it doesn’t matter a rat’s arse if their target is clean as driven snow or is the devil incarnate, we all lose when authority believes that it can act above the law.
By the way, the people who organised the ‘Moment of Truth’ went around asking for donations for the hiring of the Auckland Town Hall. It was hardly all funded by Kim Dotcom, and I would like to know how much he contributed.
Why would people go around collecting money for the hiring of the hall, if it was all paid for? An earlier, different meeting, at which Kim Dotcom attended, had people go around with buckets to gather donations from the attending crowd.
A Sad day for justice in this country. Can our judicial system be trusted any more!
Always been a bit conflicted about Dotcom. I am totally against this whole business of buying your way into this country, so if I’d have had my way, back when, he never would have made it here.
Being as he did, I then have to think about my opinion from there. I can’t work out how another country can have jurisdiction over someone who is committed of a crime by another country, but not in that country. The world of technology is changing fast and I wonder if the old rules can apply to the new game.
I believe artists should be able to gain from their own work, but it seems to work differently for say painters than musicians, painters do not receive a royalty whenever one of their paintings onsell, do they, yet in some way, the painting is still their intellectual property.
It also strikes me that copyright is more of a civil law and wonder how the heck the FBI got in on it all.
Most of all, I am not at all sure that Dotcom will receive a fair trial in the USA. That probably outweighs any other view I have about the whole thing.
Interested to know how all these Asian immigrants are getting into NZ and under what criteria.
Perhaps Kim Dot com had heard that we were freedom fighters for women’s rights, Anti nuclear, worker’s rights and indigenous rights… he found out he was so wrong. Show us an American celebrity and we’re putty in their hands.
First they came for Maori Radicals we weren’t Maori so we said nothing
Then they came for the Muslims but we weren’t Muslim so we said nothing
Then they came for the Nicky Hager we weren’t left wing journalists so we said nothing. Then they came for Dot com we weren’t internet entrepreneurs so we said nothing…
… Our time is coming…
Oh and of course, I do wonder if allowing Dotcom here in the first place was well calculated and done to keep him in some sort of holding pen until the States got all their ducks in the row. I really do wonder that, and I simply cannot believe Key did not know about him, at all.
Read between the lines?
The ‘perfect judge’ was removed prior to hearing the case – too qualified in Internet Law and clearly not a lacky of the US….
“The judge overseeing the Kim Dotcom extradition case has stepped down after making comments suggesting the United States was the “enemy”.
Judge David Harvey surrendered his role in the case after making comments during a copyright discussion at an internet conference.
An internet law expert, Judge Harvey had been considered the perfect choice to hear arguments on whether Dotcom and his Megaupload colleagues should be extradited by the United States to face charges of criminal copyright violation.
The district court’s chief judge Jan-Marie Doogue said Judge Harvey had made the decision to step down from hearing the case.
“He recognises that remarks made in the context of a paper he delivered on copyright law at a recent internet conference could reflect on his impartiality and that the appropriate response is for him to step down from the case.”
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Read: Hip-hop star in link to Dotcom case.
Judge Harvey made the comments at NetHui during a conference discussion on copyright and trade talks with the US. He referred to a tweet which had played on a reference to cartoonist Walt Kelly: “We have met the enemy and he is [the] U.S.”
The case, scheduled for March, would now be heard by Judge Nevin Dawson. Judge Dawson has previously heard elements of the case including making the decision to allow the internet giant bail in February after a month in jail.
The case has been bruising since the outset with the judge initially hearing it reprimanded for treatment of media.
It has also seen criticism of the Crown Law Office and the police. The wrong type of restraining order was initially used to seize the cash and assets of the accused. Then the search warrants were ruled invalid because they were too broad, making the search and seizure illegal. It also emerged the FBI had taken evidence back to the US without the knowledge of the police and Crown – and now want to use it to help extradite the Megaupload accused.
Auckland university associate professor Bill Hodge said the case involved new technology arguments in an “antiquated” legal framework argued by talented lawyers. “It is uniquely high stakes.”
He said it was the “case of a lifetime” for Judge Harvey. “He is recognised as one of New Zealand’s experts – not just as a judge but as an expert who has gone into copyright issues.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10820496
Wild Kapito – great job – totally agree and this all should draw massive attention to what a lying crook we have at the helm. Thanks for all your efforts to expose the ugly history and lack of ethics this corporate PM dwells in. So many negative ticks just shows how scared they are that their idiot of a leader will eventually be exposed and the truths will come out.
They are running scared to have to down tick so many truth messengers.
They are in denial and part of the asleep sheeples that got him in and now they know that things are turning to custard fast. We need to keep up the good work and keep questioning all authority and pay no attention to the negative tickers. They and their negative ticks are a waste of time and space and show that our work is hitting nerves – big time.
Bahahahahaha….. All this for just one guy. There’s a million of us just like Docom. Tech entrepreneurs are only getting stronger. The U.S tried the same shenanigans on the car industry back in the days. If the U.S was real about fighting monopolies and copy write, they would have broken up Microsft when they had the chance.
Oh by the way, pirate bay is still a thing
My sympathies are with Kim dotcom. He seems to be a rare talent who perhaps was a bit wayward but he does not deserve this. I agree with one of the contributors above the whole process has humanised him and I think NZ would have gained a lot from having him on board. It is clearly the USA that is the problem here, just as they are the problem in the middle East, In Ukraine, In Asia, and pretty much everywhere. Why is this? Because they think they are exceptional people who deserve to control the world and rape it for financial gain either by “legal action”, Trade agreements”, or military adventures. Who needs the bastards?
I would agree that the whole process has made Kim Dotcom more humane, as he is at the end of the stick, after years of being able to live it up and enjoying privilege and riches.
He is now learning, after many trials, also losing his wife, that life can be difficult and full of challenges. And he has a massive challenge in the US seeking his extradition, to face trial in the US, where his chances may not be that great, no matter whether he is right or wrong in his own actions and arguments.
Rightly or wrongly – we are still a sovereign nation .
And as I and others have said… the issue is more about our sovereign laws being made subservient to that of a foreign powers interpretation of law on our own soil.
Particularly as we have a PM who has certain interests in maintaining that foreign powers vested interests aka the Hollywood movie industry that drew up the terms of TTPA to be ratified by Congress.
It could of been anyone but in this case it was Dotcom that challenged the monopoly of that industry thus the terms of the TTPA , as such Dotcom and his co defendants have been made the fall guys for geo political reasons.
The issue is less Dotcoms challenging that monopoly but more about the issue and the question of our own sovereign laws – and just how far Key and others like him are prepared to go to make our sovereign laws subservient to geo political and foreign vested interest groups.
And this latest ruling is an indication of that.
The problem is John Key is not a New Zealander.
Yes, Key is a “New Sale Ender” (an expert at finalising deals, commercial ones, benefiting his elitarian clientele and buddies).
Key and Groser are selling NZ down the drain with the TPPA, both of them are immigrants one a Hungarian of Jewish extraction and a Pom so I am told.
How can New Zealanders standby and let this happen, we are like ostriches with our heads in the sand.
The TPPA ain’t a Free Trade Agreement it is exactly the opposite, it protects companies like Monsanto from competition and protects its long term revenue streams.
Key and Groser are traitors to the State of NZ.
Where is MSM reporting on this ? MSM protecting corporate USA ?
Maybe 50 more already good folk will read this and it is just blah blah blah- though 100% all true. Meanwhile 300000 on talkback radio of nz stay stupid! and get this – simply none of our protest leaders suggest ringing radio talkback dumbed-down listeners. It suggests our protest is all a sham meant to fail- – just like the fenced in Occupy Aotea Square was …(the top tent was full of cops and transmitters and phones back to HQ) I got ordered off the site by a cop… Brian – The Talkback Terrorist of NZ.
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