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  1. We have already a better mechanism to spread the ownership of the means of production across multiple owners without having to break down large companies into small ones. It’s called a public company limited by shares. Most large corporations don’t have a single tycoon who owns them, but their ownership is distributed across large numbers of individuals who each only own a fraction of the corporation. This is even more so if you consider indirect ownership, ie institutional investors like super funds who are themselves “owned” by huge numbers of individuals.

    It is neither ownership that the left wants to distribute, it is power. The left is not against large corporations because stocks are held by a few, powerful organisations. The left is against large corporations because they, by their very nature, dominate the economy, and concentrate power into the hands of a very few CEOs and executives. It opposes Amazon not purely because it is a massive, abusive corporation that provides enormous wealth to a single man, but also because by its very nature it is exceedingly powerful and dominates the market in a way that forces out niche companies.

    Amazon is winning games it is not even playing.

    And before you ask, yes, Grant Robertson would be fully aware that this may lead to less efficiency and prosperity in some senses. Yet they hold that their system would provide everyone with a safe and secure means of subsistence, remove excessive concentrations of power, and overall provide a more moral and just society. Thus the benefits far outweigh the costs.

    (And the left are also very sceptical of excessively powerful government organs like the police and the military, even if the latter may be necessary.)

  2. How is it we can watch kiwisaver accounts remain static at best or going backwards at a fair clip but the bank itself continues to make profits in the hundreds of millions in dollars?
    Piss poor financial management,planning, insight and outlook I would suggest through fritted teeth maybe a consideration. And I doubt they’ll be any reduction in fees they’ll be charging us for their skills and nounce. Seriously, at this stage I am better of leaving my money in an old jam jar under my bed.

  3. It will be interesting to hear what half the commentators on this site make of the fact that covid hospitalisation and death rates are up sharply in Australia. All these people who wank on about simple measures of wearing a mask as if it’s some enormous imposition on their freedom when it really just highlights the overall real problem. There are just way too may self centered, selfish pricks, in this world. “Getting on with it” , “learning to live with it,” and simple precautions, are not contradictions.

    1. So what do you base your claim of “jack shit all” on? Did you do a study? Is it in a clinical setting or real world evidence? Australia is probably a great RWE example. “no one wears masks here mate we are living with it……..ah shit”. Our rate is not stratospheric but if you think it can’t be worse you are dreaming. Based on your logic the rate of infection in healthcare workers would be no higher if they ditched PPE. Go and run that by them and see if you have any takers

  4. @Denny, agreed much of this GFC part 2, (the crunch in finance, demographics, trade, supply chains) was baked into the system before covid and the invasion of Ukraine. Although the latter adds immediate energy, food and fertiliser and other supply chain material shortages into the mix along with the spectre of nuclear war.

  5. “Grant is raising the debt ceiling not to spend more, he is raising it because he knows what’s coming next.”

    Wut? That is literally (and I’m using that word literally) the only purpose for doing it (i.e. to spend more). He knows he can’t balance the budget so is going to “spend more”. Thus more inflation is coming and, if the central bank actually does their job (which they don’t tbh), interest rates will keep going up as a consequence. Rinse and repeat. Remember, interest rates should as a bare minimum match inflation to keep it under control. In New Zealand rates should be >7% already! Buckle up people.

    1. There has been a long period of low inflation due to global supply chain efficiency and now a one of high inflation because of global supply chain disruption – this regardless of domestic government spending behaviour and related debt finance.

      Parroting neo-liberalism is sort of quaint but irrelevant to economic reality and always has been.

  6. Frank where does the 100 billion figure come from, and what does it matter if you have to wear a mask at Bunnings? That’s right, your big fear is tourists won’t want to come here because they won’t be able to hang out in the supermarket or Bunnings without wearing a mask.

    The Covid Wage protection scheme was 12.1 billion (to 30/06/20). Is that all corporate welfare? Is your spend figure all Crown expenditure? Are you suggesting opex should be zero (as apparently it has all been “pissed against a wall)?

    1. Yep. Frank the empty tank is an obvious right-wing troll, and not a very good one.

  7. I stopped reading when the text changed to centred. If a journalist has written anything decent worth reading, then keep the text left aligned at the very least. God awful reading otherwise.

  8. We can rely on Kiwisaver instead of a state pension….. yeah right!

    No wonder the high needs, crims and foreign pensioners are flocking to NZ to live. I don’t have a huge problem with retired pensioners for example coming to NZ, but make them support themselves with their own pensions and health care and aged care. BTW that costs millions per person and thus such an incentive for the world to retire in NZ.

    Instead, the neoliberals encourage more takers into partaking more NZ welfare from working people’s NZ taxes.

    NZ’s neoliberal global policy have self created, the looming debt and poverty crisis that we didn’t need to have, while the woke have created division between everyone based their identity, as the NZ social welfare and health gets split further and further based on the most vocal.

    Not sure how the woke expects NZ to support more of the worlds poor (on paper) – sell more of the country off perhaps? – Well that’s where they agree with the neoliberals.

    At least we can watch Chloe (ok Boomer) and Beven Chung’s (Mayoral Mistress) doco’s paid for with millions of tax payers $$$ – don’t worry aboutNZ women in Science or humanities who help others, or docs on why many bright people in NZ are leaving due to the alarming echo chambers of what excites the neoliberal funding purse strings.

    Shock doctrine meets social division and a country where the IQ is trending downwards because stupid consumption is the last stage of capitalism.

    If you care about the environment, delete yourself bro, like the school nazi strikers told the other kids, you are not good enough to protest, cancel yourself.

    Wonder who influenced that nice little movement.

  9. The wealthy got a massive government stimulus to there portfolios – you can now raise benifits rate, morons.

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