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  1. It’s easy to see why corrupt American-lovers are attacking Sy Hersh. They hate him for telling the truth about their American masters. Americans and American-lovers love to kill, rape, and torture the innocent. Even after Hersh revealed My Lai, only one of the American murderers received any sort of justice, Bill Calley, the guy who happened to be implementing American army policy on the ground. He served less than 3 1/2 years for the slaughter of more than 500 Vietnamese actual human beings. And this is something that is perfectly fine with the American ‘people’.

    Even greater murderers like George Bush, Obama, Clinton, Trump, walk around free in America, because they love to slaughter the innocent.

    1. Mahammed Khan, if that is your real name, you would know that Seymour Hersh has been an apologist for the mass murder of the Syrians and Palestinians by the sectarian fascist forces of the dictator Bashar Al Assad.
      Seymour Hersh and others like him have uncritically recycled Kremlin propaganda and has acted to deny and cover up atrocities committed by the Putin regime and its Syrian ally.

      John Pilger and the Syria truthers
      al-bab.com
      An open door to the Arab world

      ….These designated truth-tellers are hailed on social media for the quality of their journalism though the main thing they have in common is that they say what the truthers want to hear. They include Pilger himself, along with the factually-challenged Robert Fisk and the American investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.

      https://al-bab.com/blog/2018/05/telling-it-like-it-isnt-john-pilger-and-syria-truthers

      What Hersh and Pilger and Fisk are denying and covering up.

      Mass Deaths and Torture in Syria’s Detention Facilities

      https://www.hrw.org/report/2015/12/16/if-dead-could-speak/mass-deaths-and-torture-syrias-detention-facilities

      Tadamon Massacre

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J1gqCp6C0s&ab_channel=GuardianNews

      The Destruction of Homs

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/feb/04/drone-footage-homs-syria-utter-devastation-video?CMP=gu_com

  2. And exactly what part of the ‘enlightened’ Islamic World do you come from Mohammed?

  3. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FUCKING CORRECT MARTYN!

    Anyone with even half a brain, right back at the start of the covid outbreak added 2 & 2 together and got the correct answer. The bare facts:
    > The outbreak occurred in a city where they were conducting gain of function research.
    > Those labs had a history of mishaps.
    > One of the lab workers was a very early victim. Case#1?
    > A Beijing University scientist wrote a report on the propensity of those labs to leak…then disappeared.
    > No intermediate forms of the virus were found in nature.
    > That type of R&D had been banned in the US under the Obama administration because of the risk, but Fauci and others had given the Chinese funding to carry on regardless (What arrogance! He needs to see the inside of a prison cell.)

    But what REALLY galls me is that a group of 20 top scientists from the UK, US and Australia co-authored a latter to Nature and The Lancet saying that the lab leak theory was a wild conspiracy theory, while subsequent OIA evidence shows there was much debate among them on the subject and pressure from above to conform to the official narrative.
    So here we have yet another example of scientists lying their useless asses off to protect their careers and funding stream. It begs the question: What else has the science establishment lied to us about? I can venture a few examples, but you wouldn’t (yet) print them. Maybe in 5 years when it’s all common knowledge. 😉

  4. The problem is not just so called conspiracy theorists, they are perfectly mirrored in establishment politics, journalism and social media restrictions.

    As you indicate yourself, it wasn’t that long ago that anyone suggesting the lab leak (as banal accident waiting to happen NOT bioweapon) was dismissed as a conspiracy theorist (or racist etc), or banned from social media, despite numerous credible scientists and

  5. Not only was Eco Health researching the coronavirus, they got a grant that would enable them to specifically insert the furin cleavage site that makes the virus so transmissible to humans.
    The chance of the furin cleavage site appearing naturally at the same time that a lab is working on inserting it is beyond coincidence
    Jeffrey Sachs came to the conclusion, while chairing the Lancet commission into origins of covid, that monkey business had indeed occurred, and that covid19 was created in the lab.
    Very risky, and relying on compliant western media , to point the finger at China, when the US was neck deep in it

  6. The pooled results of RCTs did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks. There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection…”

  7. The New Zealand government must now designate America and Norway terrorist states, and other countries if they were involved. We must implement sanctions at the very least with increased surveillance on these terrorists to secure our people, infrastructure and environment.

  8. The DoE regard lab leak as most likely with low confidence, the FBI also do but with somewhat higher confidence. The WSJ article is only a scoop in the sense that DoE information has not been officially released and it now ‘safe’ to discuss it in polite society with out risk of social stigma.

    However lab leak should arguably have been the prime contender since Nicholas Wade’s article mid-2021 almost a year before the Vanity Fair piece. Even the CCP doesn’t regard natural origin as the likely cause (having claimed, at the end of 2021, that it came from Fort Detrick, one of many shifting claims).

    Sadly the problem is not just so called conspiracy theorists. They are perfectly mirrored in establishment politics, journalism and social media institutions seemingly through opportunism, tribalism or incompetence.

    As you indicate yourself, it wasn’t that long ago that anyone suggesting the lab leak (as banal accident waiting to happen NOT bioweapon) was dismissed as a conspiracy theorist (or racist etc), even banned from social media, despite numerous credible scientists and intelligence services regarding it as plausible. In the meantime the likes of Fauci and Daszak went to great lengths to suppress this story, not least because they are personally implicated. Daszak’s part as CCP favoured US member of the UN investigation into Covid involved taking ‘China’s word for it’. Fauci also sought to suppress alternatives to the chosen covid strategy such as The Great Barrington Declaration forwarded by a number of eminent epidemiologists that were successfully dismissed as ‘fringe’. There is much more to Fauci’s greatest hits, see his equivocation on what is ‘Gain of Function’ is and that such research (banned under Obama and restarted by Fauci) has actually increased since the pandemic started with all the risks that involves.

    In addition to Nordstream being ‘Russian sabotage’ other ‘truthiness’ observations can be made about, Russiagate (That the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to win the 2016 election), Jesse Smolette racist attack, Covington High School kids, Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, Hunter Biden laptop, Julian Assange, a small selection of stories in the last few years that were either fabricated, completely misrepresented or suppressed and which mainstream political and media classes ran with.

    More hilariously the numerous organisations that have popped up to combat disinformation often seem highly ideologically motivated and every bit as capable of disseminating their own disinformation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZNMWPwJJBU

    So one cannot be too harsh on the average conspiracy theorist given that highly educated professionals and officials so frequently and self-righteously get it wrong.

    These are people with access to deeper sources of information and intelligence, greater ability to ask pertinent questions and that ability to inflict social or material penalties on those who don’t comply with the current (and often changing) orthodoxy.

  9. Come on Martyn! Seymour Hersh has low credibility – a conspiracy theorist. Totally untrustworthy.

  10. By May 2020, I knew for a 99% certainty that it was likely a lab leak. There were many many if it looks like a duck moments as well as a couple of genetic issues that delivered the clincher, showing that the virus must have gone from what it was to what it became almost miraculously and it had also acquired a notoriously well known and very specific gene addition used in gain of function research. Then the final smoking gun was the ‘gene’ evolution chart which in a nutshell showed that the new virus was only 35% similar to existing similar viruses which in genetic terms is unheard of in natural selection. Not impossible but very close to and incredibly unlikely.

    However Fauci and Dazak coopted a number of the western worlds top virologists to rubbish the entire thing. Which just goes to show that science has been utterly corrupted. As Bomber says anyone who stood against them (Say Media types or University geneticists or researchers) were thoroughly crucified and deplatformed to a never before seen extent. Most Western govts seemed to be ‘in on it’, NZ not excluded.

    But what most people still dont realise is that not only did the US not want to bear responsibility for involvement in the actual leak but that the world had a moratorium on that kind of gain of function research which the US had unilaterally ignored and undermined. Not sure of the dates but something like 2010 there was another pathogen escape that could have been really bad but got caught and contained early enough. The upshot was the world got together and agreed they would stop doing it. But various countries (including the US continued doing it).

    This should be front page news with the world condemning China and the US for doing it in contravention to world accords. They should be made to at least apologise to the families of those that died. But no, we will all continue on like it’s just another scurrilous conspiracy theory and sweep their perfidy under the rug.

    I am not at all sure NZ becoming a neutral country would be a good idea but if so, this would be a good reason if one were needed. The super powers are corrupt as are our governments in supporting them.

  11. The simple fact that in the very early days of the outbreak, the Wuhan laboratory was taken over by the PLA and shut completely down, including online. Then all subsequent attempts to gain access to physically and information wise have been vehemently denied should say it all.

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