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  1. It’s just unfair on the girls barley out of amateur divisions and having the weight of the entire feminist movement on their shoulders. Totally unfair to compare the black ferns to the All Blacks. To compare the two you’d have to go right back to the 80’s when the All Blacks started receiving match fees. There wasn’t any TV rights it was all free to air and on radio.

    Imagine pulling an All Black from the 1980’s and saying right, we want you to from amateurs and slot right into a hundred million dollar franchise. It don’t work like that and it’s going to take time to get the Black Ferns up to speed. How on earth couch critics expect them to deal with all the off field stuff like contracts, media, I’m actually surprised there hasn’t been a sex scandal or some drinking binge because tabloids like a story.

    The biggest thing is woman’s rugby hasn’t developed the full range of skills like the All Blacks across all domains from players to management. So in woman’s rugby, just off the top of my head, the Australian woman’s team, some times when they’re in open space they just pin there ears back, dash 60 meters, then it takes them 40 minutes to recover. And there’s a whole bunch of individual tactical skills and fundamentals that every woman’s rugby team lacks. So when some one in the woman’s division does something new, it takes maybe a season for opponents to adjust to the new style and woman’s rugby improves that way, season by season.

    The gal Blacks are probably 40 years behind the All Blacks and what rubs me up the wrong way is this stupid expectation that they’ll close the gap in one season. It’s just ridiculous. Not to mention that make rugby points system and rules has change a over the years to create certain playing styles. You just got to give it time.

    1. Sam what about the Bloodyslow Cup to signify the massive lag women face in rugby due to NZ’s general gender discrimination.
      I don’t see women taking 40 years to catch up, and the men’s game could benefit from some reduction in violence to avoid brain damage.

      1. There’s no substitute for hard work and dedication. The girls have to play themselves into the game. It may well be that in the future Bledisloes are won with a component of woman’s rugby. In fact the cup holders do have it in them to make rule changes. Aussie when they last held the Bledisloe thought it wonderful to change the format from a best of two to a best of three. That’s why. That’s why we’ve held the old mug for the last 17 years.

  2. It’s a reasonable idea, but the weakness of the Australian, South African and Argentinian womens teams undermines it (for now).

    I prefer another appraoch.

    The womens 6 Nations teams (And Black Ferns Wallaroos, USA and Canada) form a 10 team global league (teams play home and away between World Cups). The USA, Canada, Oz and NZ terms have their annual quadrangular (turns hosting) as well.

    There should also be a womens annual under 20 comp as for men. There would just be a need to find a sponsor. This is the best way to develop the game internationally.

    Domestically expand the womens provincial competition. The top 6 and bottom 6 home and away, then finals. And each provincial game has an under 20 curtain raiser and perhaps also a sevens game (over 20 and under 20)

    For the teenagers at high school this gives them something to aspire to. When they leave play for a club then their provincial under 20 team (7’s or 15’s) and maybe the national under 20 team.

    At club level this would mean encouraing all clubs to have womens teams, both premier and Under 20.

    If we do develop the womens game internationally, we also need to develop the domestic game so we are/remain competitive.

  3. Played rugby, absolutely loved it pre professional era, for the amazing team sport it was.
    The all blacks are a commercial business selling hokey nationalism while plugging right wing politics which is destroying our sovereignty.
    What the crap would we want more for, for any gender?
    Celebrate the physical prowess and the teamwork, national identity, us vs Australia inc? God no.

    1. I hear ya, but true gender equality means equality across the board, not just gender equality in stuff progressives like, right?

      1. Replicating as much as possible the All Blacks logo and reputation and revenue then calling it equality won’t work. Best we can do is age grades and divisions to make the game more equal. But even then you’ll get people who are just natural gifted or genetic freaks who just make any one look silly. There’s just zero amounts of situations where you’d put any type of physically fit girl in front of Jonah Lomu. Zero, sorry.

      2. It’s an interesting hypothetical The Nomad, but that’s all it will be allowed to be.
        Steve Hansen’s query on public money for the all blacks, which set off all this talk, is a sneering dig at the lefts supposed open purse strings with public money.

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