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  1. A campaign that will get wide support if organised well. The 2 bill is a rough gauge of what MSD should have paid out in the first place! Claw backs and demonisation of vulnerable people with very little or no resources is appalling.

    The middle classes who got their second tier COVID benefits (partner allowed to be working, hundreds more than a standard job seeker benefit) of course will not understand it at all. Some working class people resent those getting MSD assistance too–but hello–anyone notice the billions in COVID aid to business? or the millions so far to business re Cyclone/Flood aid? The only bright spot in the millions doled out so far is a 15 mill grant to Iwi agencies whose Marae have been the backbone of flood assistance to Māori and Pākehā alike in many communities.

    Wipe the Debt!

  2. Abolishing the Full Employment Policy was a total disaster for the living conditions of working people.

    If they were paid properly in the first place, people wouldn’t have such high debt levels and low levels of personal assets (something which had previously been eradicated).

  3. I believe there is a precedent for this. There was an amnesty in the mid 1990s. I understand that , and I stand to be corrected, that as there was concern people had not been fully upfront about their circumstances, they were encouraged to “come clean” to ensure correct access to entitlements. Any existing debt was wiped, and any debt created as a result of recalculation of entitlements, was also wiped.

    A similar situation ought to occur again. We all know people on welfare who go to great lengths to hide their relationships (and why shouldnt they? Welfare is not sustainable for 1 person, let alone 2 people to pay bills, rent, and all the rest).

    If there was a similar amnesty, perhaps the true picture of assistance actually required for welfare recipients might come clear.

  4. No way, if we wipe this dept they will just start running up more debt.
    That dept is tax payers money and it isnt free money.

  5. Can’t be done @ Martyn. The Neo-libs, often dressed up in drag as 3rd way’ers currently hold sway.
    It’ll be another half decade at least before they come to their senses. As things stand, most of them think their fartings smell better than their lower class specimens. They’ve truly become Mother Earth’s ………

    Their smell lingers and will do so until the yeah/nah sussoiighty of lil ‘ole Nu Zull that punches above its weight wakes the fuck up, and realises that it ekshully isn’t when it comes to shit that matters

  6. Wipe debt if it cannot be accrued again. Otherwise there is the risk that debt will be taken on again. But, most importantly, look at what is necessary and what is not necessary.

    Additionally, a lot of debt is mounted up because beneficiaries work part time and have to “repay” money to MSD. Raise the threshold. Or why have a threshold.

    I was thinking the other day actually, that the benefit is still such a low amount. There’s no reason why beneficiaries cannot receive a comparable income to those who are working full time, and receiving the minimum wage. In fact, such a measure would act as a stimulus to the New Zealand economy. Unfortunately it would probably be unaffordable, at least in the short and medium terms.

  7. The owner of the property did not decide to build on a flood plain they decided to buy a house that was built by a developer who had been given permission by the council. The same think occurred in Chch where homes were placed in areas that in reflection was not a good call . The Chch people were lucky they had a government in charge that put action over a talk fest and created a Red Zone so people got money quickly and moved on with life .It was tough on some individuals but most were happy .

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