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  1. In that case anything is possible. We know the elements dedicated to rebelling against the role out. It’s the ones with in our own circles dedicated to rebelling against the role out that we don’t know. The ones for perfect reasons will not line up independent of those who are online and known.

  2. Sam” there’s a difference between a roll out & a role out (which doesn’t exist). Please use a dictionary to assist your comprehension!

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    1. That’s a point of procedure. This would be better debated in voice. Want to come at me about environmental protection then we can do a debate on Facebook live, face to face so everyone can see which premise holds water. Don’t come at me if you’re not willing to fight me.

  3. Such situations were always likely with private corporations having control over vaccine production and shipping dates and amounts. Various Governments globally should have put this on a “war footing” and threatened nationalisation of the pharmaceutical industry, but such is the power of neo liberal hegemony that was never going to happen with Governments like ours and most OECD types.

    5 Eyes, and NZs allegiance to US and British Imperialism meant the Govt. would not have sourced vaccine from Cuba, Russia or China regardless of how good it was, so here we are…

    In terms of electoral politics what would Nashnull have done any different is the question? Probably a lot more than 26 dead people is the likely answer.

  4. For years I taught staff to be good salespeople and the most important message I tried to get across was be truthful. If you mucked up it is better own up early than be caught out later . Most accept mistakes can by made so owning up usually means you come out in front . Playing with words and phrases to hid the truth leaves people angry and less receptive to other messages. I feel we are being treated like mushrooms re the vaccine roll out and I do not appreciate it.

  5. We don’t all need vaccinating while our borders hold and continue to hold.
    They will hold if the borders are open only to those already vaccinated, or willing to be quarantined.
    The herd instinct pressing for rapid vaccinations likens us to countries that do not and cannot now have an elimination strategy.
    Those that own the IP like the US and Britain are first in the queue, those who do not, like India and South Africa are at the end of the queue.
    There is as yet no power on earth that will force the rich to give their IP to the poor.
    Yet NZ as a small and dependent country has succeeded in both keeping the virus out, and the economy from going into a slump.
    That, and holding its place in the queue and even giving way to others such as the Cooks, Niue and Tuvalu and possibly other states in greater need.
    We have been promised full vaccination by October. Let’s work on that and behave like mature adults meanwhile.
    While we are waiting, lets give some thought to why we always push ahead like piglets at the trough in fear of missing out.
    What are we missing? A world heading for climate catastrophe.
    What about a society where we have herd immunity across all disease, where the health, welfare and education systems are rebuilt so they work.
    Lets have a political system where the political parties are controlled by their members, where delegates are recalled if they vote against their electors mandate.
    Where delegates are paid no more than the average skilled worker.
    Where there is no standing army but a popular militia.
    Where the justice system and the bureaucracy is based on elected delegates of the people.
    These principles were among those raised by the Communards of Paris 1871, the first government to be run by the ordinary citizens in their common interests, and an inspiration since to all revolutionary movements for the creation of the Commune.

  6. Have a feeling that the government sees advantages in having a closed/restricted border. It will open eventually, but the government seems happy not to rush. A cautious vaccine rollout plays into delaying easing of border restrictions.

  7. Labour and NZ have been very lucky indeed with the Covid-19. Lucky that Natz and Act werent in power and followed the advice of their experts Hosking, Duplessis, Garner, Williams, Russel and all the other fools who were promoting Swedish, Australia and Taiwan models and opening the borders to all and sundry.
    Jacinda has listened to the relevant experts making the right decisions and has made Aotearoa the most free and safest country in the world. So rejoice NZ!!!!!!!

    1. It is a silly line to say National policy on covid would have been based in any way on the shit spoken by these radio jocks.
      Labour have had the luck of the Irish to have passed through the worst of the current covid period with no major outbreaks.
      They have lied about key factors which left us all open to an outbreak and now we have the ongoing problems of the vaccine roll out. Until it is done we can only tread water and others will move ahead in both tourism and trade.

  8. Just waiting for the next Covid mutation -which the so-called vaccine will be less-than-effective against- to emerge somewhere in the world and be brought here.

    May have already happened.

  9. Who cares when we get the vaccines as with new variants developing we may need another vaccine anyway or a booster shot and this is the only issue that puts me of being vaccinated in a hurry. Also it is no good all the richer countries vaccinating their own people when the poorer countries are having big outbreaks and the virus is mutating. We are a lot safer than many others cause of our isolation and I wish NZers would stop whinging.

  10. Or maybe those who believe the vaccine is toxic, that toxic shedding is going on from those vaccinated, are correct . One thing is for sure, the government has successfully closed down all debate, reminicent of East Germany/ The Soviet Union/ Mao’s Red Guards !!!

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