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  1. +100 Great Post!…says it all…a fiasco, a setup and a miscarriage of justice.

    Where is the Labour Party on this?…and Mana?….and NZF?…and the Greens?

  2. Well said. The case is a fiasco and the police should not be signing away billions of dollars in liability that NZ tax payers need to come up with, when Sony’s own Lawyers advised them not to go ahead as (and the NZ courts have just proved) there is no criminal copywrite case to answer!

    Viacom has already sued You Tube over the same allegations and lost in the US well before this case was trumped up in NZ. Video sharing sites are legal!

    To illegally enter and then have 70 cops searching a house (after seeing too many movies and arriving via helicopter!) and then months later try to claim some sort of criminal activity that was never part of the original search doesn’t sound too legal to me!

    Maybe it’s Joyce’s new ‘pretty legal’ justice system coming into play? With NZ government turning the courts into puppets and a Kangaroo court?

    We have had Arthur Allen Thomas, we have the Ahmed Zaoui, we have had the Teina Pora’ case and so forth.

    The take home for police, is that evidence MUST be there. The NZ police should not rely on foreign intelligence based on a few people’s opinions in most cases (Ahmed Zaoui) or just make the case as they go along because their government tells them to do it.

    The NZ government were set up to do this show case that is falling apart on copywrite grounds that had already been proven in the US to be perfectly legal.

    The Natz don’t care but the NZ tax payers should! This is a worse fuck up because someone has lost billions in revenue, been harassed for years and makes our police and the FBI look like Keystone cops.

    A deal should be struck to get NZ taxpayers off the hook.

  3. this whole story makes me angry and shows how the gnats have pandered to the USA we the tax payers are paying for this circus and it is making a mockery of our judicial system

  4. And as for any money laundering charges, John Key and his own unregistered lawyer are setting up zero tax havens with no real disclosure rules to attract real criminals and launderers in NZ. Those people probably make their money from real crimes like drugs, people trafficking, environmental destruction like palm oil, and stealing government money. But that’s ok on Planet Key.

    Let’s take down the NZ resident who sets up a video file share site in the new economy. Because it threatens profits of some friends of friends who make movies.

    Hollywood doesn’t control the Internet and will never get the power to do so, thank goodness or take over our police to do their enforcement.

    Others like You Tube are already there. And if Hollywood had been smart they would have set up their own file site or invested into Lightbox or Netflicks sites if they haven’t already done so.

    Hollywood has become the desperate dinosaur clinging onto the old way of doing things and trying to litigate like Tobacco to keep profits rolling in. At least with Tobacco though, they have the decency to pay their own lawyers from their own pocket and not get some tiny country to do so for them, like Hollywood.

    There is something called change and something called technology and increasingly people are not interested in sitting in a movie theatre or getting their entertainment via someone like ex Weldon who serves up crap every day on TV.

    Dotcom is as guilty of money laundering as Tim Cook, and the rest of Hollywood and theUS IT crowd. And probably less guilty than John Key himself of fraud – just based on the blind trusts and asset sales alone!

    It’s a politically motivated prosecution from start to finish and I don’t think we are quite ready in NZ to be the country to become that.

  5. Wow! One of Martyn’s best posts yet. Brilliantly summarised.

    Laid out bare as it is now, with the latest court ruling, the Kim Dotcom case exposes this government for the corrupt fraudulent pigswill it really is.

    Dotcom was deliberately set up by the Key administration as a favour to the US. In granting the Dotcom family NZ permanent resident status, Key collaborated willingly with the MPPA to hand KDc over to US authorities on a silver platter! For what I ask? No doubt to improve his own standing with the powers that be in the US! In other words Kim Dotcom (and his family) unbeknowingly became a victim of treachery, courtesy of traitor then PM John Key’s devotion to serving his US masters, regardless of the consequences suffered by NZ residents. Gives me reason to believe this National government would not hesitate to sell any one of us out, if it meant personal gain on its part!

    Now as this case begins to unravel in Kim Dotcom’s favour, as Martyn states, NZ taxpayers could well stand to be the losers, having to foot a very hefty payout to Mr Dotcom and rightfully so, considering what Key’s deception has cost Dotcom, emotionally, financially and
    otherwise.

    Be interesting to see what repercussions Key & Co will be made to endure once this case blows its lid in Dotcom’s favour.

  6. One of the legs of the argument that provides a sense that Hollywood has some kind of grievance on the issue is the patently false presumption that people who watch material online would buy it at full price from Hollywood. Often people download movies that are not locally screened, and, in many parts of the world, US cinema prices would not be sustainable. Although some forms of piracy hit smaller producers, the word of mouth promotion of popularly downloaded works contributes to their success and Hollywood returns. The whole approach has been dog-in-the-manger. Had Hollywood half the brains of a healthy lettuce they’d’ve had KDC making them a better version of Netflix several years early.

    The whole affair has been vexacious from start to finish and NZ should by now be acting to mitigate the damages for which our fucking stupid government have made us liable.

    1. And the reality is that with increasingly inequality, $30 in NZ for a couple to go to the cinema is too much when the minimum wage is so low and people are on zero hour contracts and have to constantly work.

      Do many people really have the time, energy, let alone funds to go to a set viewing, pay to drive or bus there etc, queue and then have someone crunching away next to you and pay a fortune for overpriced snacks?

      Much of Hollywood money now is actually made from merchandising anyway. So in the Viacom case they actually found that Viacom were uploading the video’s themselves onto the file sharing sites like You Tube, to drive business along and then they tried to sue them for lost profits!!!

    2. Thanks for pointing this out Stuart. The estimates of “lost sales” by the media cartels are about as reliable as cop estimates of the street value of cannabis crops, which weigh the whole plant (including leaves, stems, and root ball) and multiply that weight by the street price of an ounce of dried buds. There have been a multitude of economic studies by researchers not paid by the media cartels, concluding that non-commercial file-sharing either has no effect on media sales, or increases them. Just a few examples:
      2004: http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing_March2004.pdf
      2010: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08997764.2012.700974?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=hmec20
      2012: http://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1501&context=cmc_theses
      2013: http://www.lse.ac.uk/media@lse/documents/MPP/LSE-MPP-Policy-Brief-9-Copyright-and-Creation.pdf
      2016: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167624516301226

  7. Exelent post martyn,

    Our erosion of our civil rights is manifest in the evil these toxic corporate “greedies” do to us all.

    They must be culled before they totally enslave us all in their economic slavery plans they are devising against us all.

  8. The US Supreme Court is about to decide a case whether the US Constitution applies to foreigners. If 230 years of it does not is suddenly thrown out, you NZers are going to be possibly sets to Americans. The US is getting weirder and more perverse as a culture. The people pushed back against this hegemony by electing Trump. But courts are being used as end runs around freedom of the people. You should fight for Dot on even if he is a fat German. The US helped to defeat the Germans. Now the US has morphed into a withering cultural disease. Fight this disease.

  9. Great article Martyn. The whole can of worms was initiated by Obama’s Government and John Key’s government trying to suck up to them. Exactly why NZ should once again have an independent foreign policy. With friends like that who needs enemies

  10. The whole darn senario is getting more mind boggling by the day.

    The New Zealand tax payer is paying the price and if Dot com wins and we get sued then we should in turn sue the MPPA for all costs including all the court cases and investigation costs and any monies we pay KIT DOT COM.

  11. US extra-territorial reach into New Zealand goes even further. The US government passed an amendment to a highway bill in2010 that was meant to partly cover the costs. This amendment, FATCA, foreign account tax compliance act, was forced on over 160 governments through IGAs or inter governmental agreements (NZ in June 2014). If a foreign bank doesn’t identify and report the bank details of persons having a connection to the US to Inland Revenue and then to US IRS, then the US will withhold 30% of all money from that bank trading in US dollars. The compliance cost of this so far is $120 mil (Wikipedia). As a dual citizen of NZ and US, my bank balances must be reported to the US, also must file annual US taxes, and detail credit cards, bank acct, pensions, Kiwisaver to the US Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, at threat of US $10k fine per account per year for failing to report. Fortunately no assets in US.

  12. The issue for Justice Gilbert to consider, as it was for Justice Asher on 10 February 5 years ago, is can he issue a warrant to arrest these 4 men? How would it be worded? Far more important than 3000 odd pages of submissions beating around the bush. He cannot and should recall the matter and release them from the so-called bail

  13. Don’t think only stupid Americans are affected, the tentacles of our oligarchs are far reaching.

  14. Highly recommend everyone here watch Adam Curtis’ latest doco “HyperNormalisation”, which attempts to explain the world we currently live by examining how politicians shape our perceptions etc. Really great stuff that will likely change how you see/interpret things that are currently happening.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6156350/

  15. John Campbell was like a dog with a bone on this. The rest of the media was useless
    It was the first time I really saw John Key lying through his teeth.
    Campbell made all the connections with the deal NZ was forging with Hollywood re:Lord of the Rings, Keys visit to Hollywood chiefs and Obama, the raid and Key’s professed ignorance of a billionaire in his own electorate. Key brushed it all off as co incidence.
    And we were all encouraged to hate Dotcom because he was fat, German and rich

  16. Thank you Martyn….I was not in NZ when this all occurred and I remember thinking, extradition for Copyright? Really? On what planet….JK was got at. No doubt about it. Bit the same as Lange was got at by the French over the Rainbow Warrior …but this was different. In this case, they had a willing buyer as Key only relates to money. There is nothing else on his radar. Just follow Homeland. Nothing fictional about that.

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