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  1. Viewing employees as a liability is a major phenomenon through out the managers class. With increasing frequency contracts stipulate you must hand over all digital pass words so employeers can access weather comunications between employees are work related to protect interlectual property. These new digital detectives have now replaced work place liability.

    When once we had a manual for every job so blame was assigned to the employeer, then in the 90’s blame assigned on the notion that fault always lay with the operator, who operated larger machines.

    Now that machines have gone through dramatic miniaturisation they can be replaced easily so to protect the IP workers are looked at as snithes.

    1. I believe that will change as the underdog fights back against the managerial class. The managerial class really has no power. It is assigned to them from above. But not given through democratic means. So the people will always go with the worker and if the managerial class head grows to much it gets lopped off like what happened in the french revolution with the aristoctats. I think a little revolution from time to time not to be a bad thing. Maybe not the lopping off of heads these days…

      1. It’s about justice and a full air crash style investigation so we can learn what happened and adjust work safe manuals ect. You just cant learn anything shot crete’ing over mistakes like a green horn who gets tired scalling.

        The first thing that should have been outlawed in New Zealand are rising declines. It angers me to no end that the mine bosses couldn’t get permission untill the last minute to cut a road accross a national park to install a crusial vent fan that was vital.

        And i heard a rumour the mine manager hadn’t even mined coal seems.

        There is a simple solution. Andrew Little said he’d reenter and thats good enough for me

  2. It is great to see Bill English coming to the rescue. Finally a politician with a bit of guts coming to help out the Pike River families. Better that National Party and its alliance is coming to their aid, than Winston, who is all fluff, dandruff and bluster and a populist policitican.

    Well done Bill!

  3. Let the low-life chair resign, “good riddance to bad rubbish my Dad would always say.

    They never tried to save those men from the start, so they are murders I say.

  4. Interesting listening to Bill English interview that it is the board of Pike River (Solid Energy) who stand to be incriminated and found responsible for 29 deaths if any evidence of malpractice is found on re-entry , that have to make the decision on the safety of re-entry.
    Also interesting that the critical consideration is that someone must be able to be held liable now if anything goes wrong on re-entry; rather than seeing to it that nothing goes wrong.
    There is constant risk in many occupations all the time; it can only be constantly monitored , it can’t be eliminated. With the care that would be taken in re -entering that mine now it would be the safest job in the country.
    D J S

  5. Let’s run and X-Factor-style voting system.

    The politician from National with the most number of votes, gets to replace Winston going into the Pike River Mine drift.

    National and its spin-doctor-handlers have only got off their collective arses because Winston shamed them into it.

    Must be an election year. Gerry Brownlee gets my X-Factor vote. Labour-Greens will get my strategic election votes.

    1. Wow! That was some in depth analysis Frank! Well the feck do you find time to sleep??

      It gave a whole new insight into how the Nats gutted solid energy for revenue.

      1. Frank is doing what the MSM should be doing. The level of questioning how things are, was once the domain of MSM journalist. That was till the right, grabbed teh reins of the media and started to make New Zealand like Orwell’s Oceania.

        “Winston dialled ‘back numbers’ on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of ‘The Times’, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes’ delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify….

        This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs—to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold
        any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary. In no case would it have been possible, once the deed was done, to prove that any falsification had taken place.

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