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  1. Martyn, there are numerous amounts of people on this site dumb enough to vote National and ACT.
    It’s because of there tribal beliefs and never look beyond attacking Labour for being Labour, even though, as you say, most of today’s issues were created by the neglect of the last Nact government.
    It’s not rocket science.

    1. Utter drivel.

      The social housing waiting list has climbed by 22000 since 2017.

      Inequality
      Poverty
      Gang numbers
      Emissions
      Coal imports
      Hospital waiting times
      Elective surgery numbers
      Emergency response times
      Ram raids
      Hardship
      Food grants/parcel numbers
      Truancy
      Kiwibuild
      Lightrail
      Mental health
      Housing affordability

      All far worse now than under the last National government and most were worsening pre-pandemic. Defend that record!

      1. I would be the first to vote for a NAT/ACT coalition if I thought their policies would improve any of these problems.
        We can only look at the Key government as what to expect. That is sale of state housing, under funding of the hospital system with an ambition to privatise and more truck roads.
        Labour has let us through the pandemic with minimal disruption, our real GDP has outperformed most countries and our crumbling hospital system has kept us alive.

      2. Ickeyboyle you are a dropkick your defense of National is vomit inducing. Everything you highlighted was born by National so fuck off.

      3. With idiots like MickeyBoyle, National stand no chance. If National had done even a half decent job none of his issues listed would be an issue today. MickeyBoyle, just another right wing ambulance voter at the bottom of the cliff.

    2. So National voters are dumb and so obviously Labour voters are not .To my mind not only are Labour voters dumb they must be blind and deaf to not hear or see the distress from all walks of life . Businesses no staff and fear of robber,The poor facing inflation through the roof, wage earns fear losing their job ,farmers fear regulation that will break them, medical people fear each day as things get worse in every area. Collectively they fear 3 more years of poor management and policy driven by trying to divide the country by race

      1. Trevor. I read Josie Pagani’s simplistic drivel in today’s Dim-Post advising King Charles how to stop the Harry horror show, recoiling in despair at the trite intellectual level at which the left functions. The Nats may be no better, but this lot are not even student cafe level, and should be banished, anywhere but Bowen Street.

      2. You never acknowledge that today’s failures were born by National, why is that Trevor?

  2. The voters will forgive Labour for screwing up the tar seal (wet tar seal doesn’t stick to tyres Martyn), the egg shortage due to precipitate legislation, or the CO2 shortage caused by the government failing to manage strategic logistical supply. However, they might blame the government in years to come when they run out of natural gas to heat their homes and we cannot make products such as glass bottles in NZ anymore.

    But what the government will DEFINITELY blame this government for is their highly divisive race-based policies and their profligate spending on ill-considered pet projects

    1. Profligate spending ?….You’ve got the wrong party….Pet projects like the soon to be white elephant pet project of the National Party i.e the massive multi billion dollar concrete network of irrigation channels, culverts and tunnels crisscrossing the South Island, running the river’s dry and killing off the Benthic macroinvertebrates was National’s wet dream (soon to be nightmare).
      Labour didn’t screw up the tar seal. The Transmission gully fuckup amongst others was all National’s doing.. going for the cheapest lowest price with unrealistic time frames instead of factoring in quality and longevity.

      Then there was the importing of cheap uncertified reinforcing steel from China they used to make our motorway flyovers that had to be redone at significant more cost and time than if they had done it properly from the out set… Penny wise …pound foolish …every time. That’s National!!

      National are small- minded pea- brained short term thinkers that believe everything that is cheap and quick equals good economics. Nothing could be further from the truth. They are predominantly non practical silverspooner’s …clueless…and….they never learn…they never learn because they have never had to learn and so don’t know how to. Look at the nonsense they were talking during the Covid lockdowns and vaccination process.
      Complete nonsensical ignorant and impractical gibberish. Trying to stir up trouble with childish fake stories. That was the best they could do. They had no idea.
      They are fundamentally flawed as a species and you just can’t have people like that running a country.

      Sco mo was a classic example of that in Australia.

    2. Andrew what is laughable about the CO2 situation is all these bleating true right wingers that say the government should stay out everything the market will take care of it wank, wank. Then as soon as it goes wrong it’s the governments fault. Todd Energy have known they have a monopoly on local production for ages and they can’t even get that right. Their local competition at Marsden Point disappeared because “the market” decided local refining wasn’t giving them the margin on their money. It wasn’t the government that shut the refinery ( sure you can argue they should have bought it, but oh that’s big government it’s it?).

    3. Andrew is right.
      Labour want to give away water rights to Maori.
      NZ First will support National and ACT to privatise water, rather than give it Maori.
      National, ACT and NZ First in 2023.
      PM Luxon; Finance Seymour; Foreign Minister Peters.

      1. Luxon and Seymour are political lightweights compared with Mr Peters.

        Neither of them deserve to have leadership roles in the 2023 Right-Wing Bloc of power. They will be there to advise and bow to the magnificent warrior, Winston Peters. Winston Raymond Peters was born before the end of the war, but he encapsulates the warrior spirit that setup modern democracies as the go to form of government.

        I am a pensioner and Winston is a Gold-Card leader. He understands my demographic and he is able to span the political divides and he stands up for the downtrodden, much like his mentor, Rob Muldoon

  3. Well obviously glorious socialism is the answer. Because we’ll do it right this time….

  4. If any one person is responsible for “every bloody long term structural problem”, it would be one Sir R. Douglas of the Labour Party!

    The “root cause of every single problem” is that the Uniparty is controlled by Wall Street (and the Martin Place banks, and some large local firms).

    In other words, monopoly capital dictates policy. Those policies barely change, regardless of who is elected.

    The press barons will not report on the issues Martyn is discussing. The labour movement press has entirely collapsed.

    Not even the trade unions can escape the Uniparty. Like the Democrats, Labour have presided over the total collapse of the entire labour movement — in all three countries where they operate.

    Until both parties are smashed to pieces by the voters, nothing will change.

    This has already begun in Italy, Greece and France.

    Otherwise you end up rehashing the arguments about why working class people should vote for Hillary Clinton — someone who nobody likes, and who was to the right of Donald Trump on most of the issues!

    1. If it wasn’t Douglas it would have been Richardson and or every single finance minister we’ve ever had from any party you care to name.

  5. History will confirm this country’s current situation is caused by both Labour and National.

  6. True National are useless. But Labour are even more use less. National the lesser of two evils. That’s why you need ACT to prop up National and Labour are a dysfunction Al mess with out NZ First as a collation partner. MMP solves all those issues.

  7. I was staggered Dr Shane Reti wasn’t in the New Year Honours list. I mean his service in the use of hypocritical bullshit is unsurpassed.

    He mightn’t be National’s chief spokesperson on selling us lies to fix problems they caused, but he is the Master at carpeting bullshit over history.

    His regular columns in the Northern Advocate lay out how dire things are with everything in Northland, particularly health and roading. No mention of his part in shitting in the nest to make it like it is. His blind, narrow-minded, short-sighted, sycophantic fellow party members sat on their arses for years happy to see the North ‘progress’ to where it is. Including the state of the Northland Base Hospital.

    The Government says it’s going to do something about that so of course Reti and his noddies are out out their trees spluttering about the plans to re-develop the Whangarei hospital. They didn’t do anything about the state of the hospital but they’re aggrieved that the Government has only allocated $759 million for Stage one of the project.

    No doubt when the project is underway the present MP Emily Henderson will have been despatched to history as a one term MP and Reti will be the Minister of Health. Hopefully he gets a big team of proctologists for the new hospital – there are a lot of arseholes up here.

  8. Your right Martyn and you seem to have upset the same old wayne kerrs who espouse the same old bullshit excuses for how we got in the mess we are in, in the first place.
    And our mates in the UK and Aus have the same problems as us and I wonder why, now who has been in power over there.

  9. Wow! Even back in the Dunedin band days, the lead guitarist and bass player were aware of the issues surrounding at least one of the “three waters”

  10. Kristoff R is correct.
    ‘Until both parties are smashed to pieces by the voters, nothing will change.’
    Both parties have gone far past their ‘use by’ date and are stuffed with political hacks and third raters.
    If there is a candidate in my electorate I’ll vote Social Credit.

  11. I do think National can win but I think it will be a closer race than anyone predicts. And the truth is neither big party deserves to win. They both have much to answer for but I have to say it, if you believe in democracy, its impossible to vote Labour or Greens.

    There’ll be more than a few on this site whose votes will go to Winnie or TOP. For all that’s made of it, I dont actually think many of the posters on here are Tribal at all. Most see the miasma for what it is.

  12. PS;; I should say National could win, I think its equally possible Labour may cobble it together as well but my instinct says Nats could have the edge.

  13. After six years of Labour, the political party which I have traditionally supported the most, I am thinking that there isn’t actually much they they can do that National cannot do also, and I am thinking that a change of government could potentially be refreshing. In addition to this, I am concerned how the Prime Minister would cope with a third term in power because the last three years of the pandemic, plus inflationary pressures, plus the probability of a recession this year, have been tough, and it is a situation, in particular on a global scale, that is likely to continue to be tough.

    I would like to add that I’m proud of Jacinda Ardern so far as the way in which she has represented New Zealand. I support many Labour party policies too.

    1. I’m not proud of a woman who went to the UNO earnestly declaring herself to be a supporter of freedom of speech and then promptly advocated global censorship of speech, describing the words which set us free as weapons of mass destruction. Trevor Mallard’s illegal attempt to have Winston Peters trespassed from Parliament for the years ahead suggests that Peters is a force to be reckoned with, and we’ve few of them on the political landscape.

  14. There is sufficient ignorance and greed in NZ right now to facilitate a rightwing coalition win. Tragically. You are correct, all the issues Labour has faced have been caused by National – especially the John Key version. From Luxon down, the quality of National and Act members is woeful. Mediocre, unprofessional journalists (although that is far too good a name for most of them) are stoking the flames of a rightwing fire by persistently undermining the government. Layer that with the supreme idiocy of self serving specimans* who fail to understand that the society they choose to live in and which has delivered them many benefits from the time they were born, is interdependent. We each have a certain responsibility in times of crises. Certainly, Jacinda Ardern has made mistakes along the way and (I believe) has not always been served well by her team – however, she has worked tirelessly for the good of the country. But a mere slip of a girl who lives ‘in sin’ with her partner and their child, has been ripe for reprehensible derision by a sector who probably have never been referred to as ‘stallions’. *speciman – used derogatorily.

  15. Again, my comment didn’t make it through moderation – now using ID#2. What’s going on here? Hope you have the guts to publish this Mr Bradbury.

    Yes, we need scientists, but the Labeen government is busy trying to destroy science by making Matauranga Maori ‘equal’ to science – despite the fact that it is based on Maori religion and spirituality. WTF? We’re supposed to be a secular nation, and the Education Act enshrines a secular education.

    We live in a post-Covid age where science is more important than ever, but being challenged at every turn by denialists of all stripes from environmental to vaccines. So what does Labeen do? Poison the new science curriculum with spiritual nonsense.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.com/?s=matauranga+maori&orderby=relevance&order=DESC&post_type=post

    This must stop.

  16. The only way National/ACT lose the coming election is some sort of epic scandal or maybe a new global catastrophe where the current government can capitalise on their “leadership”. Outside of that, I’d say <20% chance Labour/Greens form the next government.

    1. Based on donations, the elections are Nacts to lose. Based on policy, Nact have no chance.

  17. And to @ Nitrium.
    a) As you acknowledege, TDB is His blog and He can do what he wants
    b) I think He might have a life outside TDB, and comments may appear when He gets around to moderating and posting them. He could be liable for the shit, or words of wisdom people post, especially as lil ole NuZull that punches above its weight moves toward a more litigious, and look-at-me-look-at-me- I’m-the-most-important-commenter-on-Earth.
    c) Dropping everything else that might be going on in His life in order to process comments says more about the commenter than the moderator
    I’m still waiting for a couple of comments to appear, and its possible they won’t ever. OR they may when things that are today’s issues become yesterday’s fish and chip wrapper.
    There are a few things I don’t like about TDB. Martyn appears to be playing the media at its own game (and is probably winning). Media stardom and self promoters, big egos and bullshit artists. The difference seems to be that most of the posters (as opposed to commenters) have a bit of substance.

    and d), As @ R Smith notes: Martyn is probably away dealing with other aspects of His life. (Must be a conspiracy eh? – to avoid posting comments he doesn’t like!!!)

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