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  1. Yes Martyn you have zeroed in on who the probable “gatekeepers” are by your inferences to who is hurting the most here.

    Of course that will be who lost when the TPPA was killed Mr Sanders & Mr Trump right.

    It was the Corporate elite who own the media and who will loose the wielding of the power they thought they had as TPPA seemed a certain before that fateful day when Clinton got booted out of the political world along with Obama all who were the leaders of TPPA along with their junior NZ partner in crime John Key no less.

    We now will have the opportunity to boot Criminal proponent of TPPA the key dynasty out next year also to complete the cleaning out of this evil empire.

  2. Totally agree. MSM set the rules of fake news and they should go down in flames with the new players of fake news.

    But I think nearly as bad as fake news is rise of sponsored content – especially as it has undue influence of the type of articles being run as well (or more importantly not run) as many people (and the arguably the most vulnerable) can’t distinguish between an ad labeled “sponsored content” and a real news story on a website, according to a Stanford University study of 7,804 students from middle school through college.

    Even worse is the rise of the media to use fake news, sponsored content and selective editing for political or financial purposes such as Spinoff lists advising people to vote Ralston in the election instead of Lee to help their developer mates cheerleading for the unitary plan.

    Personally could not care if the founders just want to make a buck and feel fulfilled writing articles about Shortland Street Power Rankings: The best Chris Warner week since 1992 or new Metallica album covers, instead of what used to be considered news, but I do mind when they then start influencing local elections, local planning rules and obviously with the amount of political attacks against the opposition, subtly gearing up as a less mainstream avenue for their advertisers in the general election.

      1. Fuck infowars, Save NZ was right with sponsored content though, it is becoming the norm, prostitution of values and the truth by the MSM.

        You are just an alt right ideologue, I fear.

        1. Frank;

          Whilst I admit that Jones and Watson can get a bit emotional at
          times…”a far-right hate-blog such as “Infowars”… it is not.
          Rather it shows a visceral commitment to the abhorrent direction
          Globalism is taking us all.

          Infowars is fighting Globalism and exposing deception whereas
          Whaleoil uses deception and is a Globalist’s Tool.

          Infowars is ‘virtually mainstream’ now.
          By that I mean the number of issues raised that are picked up or
          forced into the MSM (whether picked up by Drudge,Beitbart,others
          or not) is truly impressive.
          Collection of citizens data, Open Boarders, Hillary’s health are a
          few examples.

          Perhaps these are more to your liking from well respected authors.

          “Can Trump succeed?” by Thierry Meyssan. Watch video.
          http://www.voltairenet.org/article194055.html

          “Trump the Great” — Paul Craig Roberts.
          http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/25/trump-the-great-paul-craig-roberts/

          “Who is Behind “Fake News”? – by Prof Michel Chossudovsky,
          http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-behind-fake-news-mainstream-media-use-fake-videos-and-images/5557580

          99.9% of Alex Jones’ historical fact is true. He is well read from a
          very young age with the guidance of his father and extended family.

          To quote Martyn above;
          “It’s the sounds of gatekeepers who are complaining about their irrelevance.”

          Cheers.

  3. It is actually an attempt by the corporate elite who own the mainstream media to go for totalitarianism …and the EU is calling for censorship of alternative media because the neolibs in control of the EU don’t like open and free debate and a free press….these are ominous signs of incipient fascism…and a very unstable EU oligarchy

    ‘ ‘Delusional call for war’: MEPs denounce anti-Russian ‘propaganda’ resolution’
    Published time: 24 Nov, 2016 00:50

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/367992-eu-delusional-resolution-russian-propaganda/

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-23/merkel-declares-war-fake-news-europe-brands-russias-rt-sputnik-dangerous-propaganda

    So this is what the EU and Merkel is objecting to in RT?…largely shows by American journalists …and the absolute best at their game…check it out:

    https://www.rt.com/shows/

    1. Chooky;

      Another three good links.

      RT’s Crosstalk,Keiser Report and Sophi&Co are my favourites.
      Documentaries; Looove ’em.

      Cheers.

  4. There clearly is fake news, and it abounds in social media, we only need to look at some links that some here do at times present.

    But we also know the MSM is mostly privately owned and controlled now, they have their own bias, they are like an old boys and old girls network, we can see it here in NZ Inc, all over the show.

    Even on RNZ I notice the absolute determination to not touch any hot potatoes, to be PC to the extreme, to never dare show any slight indication of political leaning, towards one or the other party’s position.

    While that may be good in a way, at times it is simply bizarre, as they rather deny the facts, just to appear “neutral”.

    So it goes even worse when it comes to the ratings addicted private operators, who do all to get attention, hence we have spy news about the All Blacks being bugged in a hotel in Sydney, we get a top story on an old fashioned, somewhat bizarre Muslim preacher in South Auckland, who basically only quotes their scriptures, which sadly some followers take literally.

    We get headline news when Mr Parker is going to box, and as that may mean big money for big business, that is “news” for all, presented as important.

    We have other “news” that are not informing us, that are either biased or wrong, but as they hit the ratings, they still present them, whether true or relevant or not.

    Lifestyle is a great topic, one day fat makes you slim, the other day it makes you fat, according to contradicting, hardly reliable “science”, we get news about cancer being beaten, but only rich can afford medicine costing hundreds of thousands a year.

    We get misinformation and lies, that is 24/7 on MSM, so yes, that is why “social media” took off, but there is actually a danger, of more misinformation, by MSM and SM as well, and that is where we are headed.

    No wonder more people switch off, do not care anymore, and do not even heed the warnings re climate change, they carry on as usual, and pollute and kill the planet, and the abyss is nearing.

    Maybe the old days of codes and conduct, of regulations and standards, where you reported with facts and balance, need to be revisited, or we may as well believe whatever makes us feel good, and say fuck you to the rest?

    1. nonsense…you could equally argue the rise of fascism has a new tool in the corporate owned mainstream media…with its indoctrination and propaganda

  5. any properly educated free thinking person can tell the difference between what is fake news and real news but that’s the biggest problem we face and as for people that keep going on about fascism the kkk and Nazis your just giving the small number of idiots involved in those redundant cause’s publicity and spreading fear which leads to over the top reactions to basic problems.

    1. Chooky;

      YES. There is good reason why RT calls Crosstalk their Flag Ship.

      Peter Lavelle is truly one of the best.! Excellent episode. Thank you.

      Patrick Henningsen is founder of 21st Century Wire and along with
      Vanessa Beeley are doing some very good work. Ass.with UK Collumn.

      This is where I learned of the true nature of ‘The White Helmets’ and their
      ongoing PsyOps.
      Also about the the use of Crisis Actors and the whole industry created.
      Also used to deceive us all participating in False Flags.

      As with the photo heading this article you can get the idea of using virtually
      Hollywood studios to actually create false news events as in the beheadings
      by terrorists that shocked our nations a while back. ie MSM Fake News.
      http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/24/the-entire-mainstream-warmongering-media-is-fake/
      Look for the image on the front page.
      http://21stcenturywire.com/

      “The purpose of our website is to educate, promote learning on geopolitical and social issues, as well as provide much-needed independent commentary, news reporting, including criticisms and critiques of larger corporate and foundation-funded media outlets and their coverage. We also aim to deliver a consistent stream of independent research on subjects and views that are generally not covered in the corporate-owned and foundation-funded media spheres.”
      http://21stcenturywire.com/about/

      Now the site has been revamped/upgraded I would recommend adding to my
      list/template found at bottom of Franks article “Black Ops…”1st Nov. 2016.

      Cheers.

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