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  1. A noble peace prize winner drops 26k bombs in his final term in office. That’s fucking disgusting. Is this our price of piece?

  2. Slipping in the German reference undermines your argument, and is desperate, why even mention…

    1. Because it’s the same developmental path made famous by Hittler, in the modern context. Step one, present a blank slate, start with hope/change/dream, which are similar but not the same as hitters slogans of hope/change/dream. Step two, write anything you want in between. Nobody would have though that vision included 10000 dead American soldiers and embassy staff. Or 6 million dead Jews.

      Petty humans are conditioned to think in small bites of information, only at the state level could these atrocities have been conjured

    2. You might have a point Matty but I wanted to emphasise the dangers of thoughtless cheerleading and how those who fail to hold power to account also bear some responsibility for the result of their hero’s actions.

    3. Matty, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

      Don’t forget your history, mate.

    1. Iv always wondered why that Hollywood hack keeps getting awarded, as it turns out, if she did hold differing opinions, she wouldn’t have stood on all those podiums.

    2. You are right Adrian. It is not surprising that Meryl Streep should give such a speech. What is surprising though (and that’s the point I’m making) is how that speech was held up to be an important and brave speech.

  3. She’s an actress. She pretends to be what she’s not. She reads the script and delivers the lines. She aint no intellectual.

  4. What a great post. I particularly liked

    “When I asked why he didn’t clap. He said they had been taught at school not to clap for things they did not understand.”

    I also agree with critiquing politicians ‘great speeches’. I don’t care about speeches I care more about actions and Obama and many other politicians are falling short on the right actions possibly because they did not learn what your German friend learned about not clapping for things they don’t understand.

    In NZ, TPPA comes to mind as does mass surveillance and sending troops to Iraq. If politicians don’t understand it they should not be authorising and championing those issues.

    1. Thank you SAVENZ. Yes, I do believe that the main issue remains educating people but our mainstream media, whose responsibility it is to inform us, are hamstrung by the need to return profit to their shareholders. The system is designed to keep us distracted and uninformed.

  5. Yeah and who’s mess did Obama spend most of the time cleaning up after? GW Bush, the guy that opened up the whole can of worms in the middle east over a lie, a lie that Trump agreed with.

    1. It was Henry Kissass who opened up this can of worms, he makes Dick Chainy look like Martyn Bradbury, no offence Martyn. But when you decide to start your history from a the wrong point in time, you end up with the wrong conclusions.

      Donna is correct in this situation when she finished with. “If we are to reverse the rise of Trumpism, we have to do less cheerleading for empty words and focus more on holding those in power accountable for their actions.”

      Concerned people are not bothered with what happened in 2008/2002/2001/minus a million BC. They want to know that a police state isn’t going to kick in there door because of a tweet. Or if a police state is going to kick in there door because it’s in the national interest. By national interest I mean corporate interests. If corporate interest cleaning up the mess they caused is a justifiable position. Then Hillary (Bernie should have won) would have won and not Trump.

      So until it can be proven that Chainys policies killed more than Kissengers, then I’ll agree with you that Trump bought into lies about WMDs.

      1. Invading Iraq was the thing that caused most of the problems that they are dealing with now, if that hadn’t happened, most of what’s going on now wouldn’t be happening. It opened up the massive power vacuum that IS and Al Qaeda filled, trying to pin the regions problems on Obama is a joke. Before he came in Iraq was still a total basket case.

    2. When Obama took office, the USA was bombing 4 countries, when Obama leaves Office 8 years later, the USA is bombing 7 countries.

      Let’s make a quick tally

      Wars ended = 0
      New wars started = 3

      Tell us again why we should be blaming Bush after 8 years of Obama’s warmongering…

    3. At the time, Trump agreed with the invasion of Iraq.

      Now he says he didn’t.

      He re-writes history better than Winston Smith in “1984”.

  6. Thank you Donna Miles for being a truly perceptive and intelligent female. I had almost given up on females in spite of being one myself.

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