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  1. No disrespect to Big Norm, but a rather gruesome speculation from our long distance columnist…

    Personally I would rather see “what ifs” on developing a strong activist movement, like at Ihumātao, dedicated to burying Roger’n’Ruth’s neo liberal legacy. A cruel wrecking ball that swung through old NZ, and has had many in NZ on the ropes for 30 years.

    –Return all SOEs to Govt. Depts
    –Make all Senior public servants and CEOs in the ministries reapply for their jobs, send them packing, and for example appoint the likes of AAAP (Auckland Action Against Poverty) to oversee the retirement of WINZ/MSD
    –Restrict the free in and outflow of capital
    –Massive infrastructure projects and non degree training
    –Return to transferable ‘opt–out’ union membership…

      1. Excuse my “manglish” Chris, long distance in terms of duration as a political writer…

  2. Kirk didn’t just have a vision of how NZ should be, he had an understanding of what needed to be done, what things he had to take control of to put it into place. Jacinda only has the vision of how NZ should be; and a forlorn hope that her neoliberal minister of finance can provide the means.
    With Winston in charge of the economic portfolio that would have far more chance of working , but in the present arrangement there’s no show.
    Jacinda might have time to learn though; Norm probably gained from his longer experience of the world , life and government. Next term Jacinda could have more self confidence to take control.
    Here’s hoping.
    D J S

    1. new zealand is faceing a private debt bomb of nats making personaly i see a mass insolvency event on the horizon we will be in uncharted waters

  3. Interesting parallels you make between our current pm and the late Norman Kirk and yes both are probably appreciated more over seas than they are at home in NZ especially now where it seems buffoons are the order of the day to run a northern hemisphere country but the main difference is that Kirk was elected under a FPTP system and Jacinda under a MMP system therefore Kirk didn’t have to appease to to many numbnuts from within .

  4. Ugh….you’re comparing this govt to that of Norman Kirk? Really? Do you think Kirk’s Labour government would have passed the CP-TPP into law, commenced negotiations on the RCEP, continued to under fund healthcare, fail to provide adequate support for the poor, unemployed and homeless, first home buyers and on and on?

    Kirk and our best Australian PM Savage actually did things for the NZ people as true decent Socialists and that’s why they are fondly remembered to this day.

    1. Yep.
      It’s a nice love letter to Jacinda this piece but the population isn’t that struck with her, she is charismatic and speaks kind words but as I’ve said before she’s our Obama- great words without action will ensure a political backlash.
      I’m no longer sure she’s genuine after watching her stuff interview on suicide “we’ve made a great start” much grimacing and nodding of head, floundering and knowing she was failing.
      There are only so many times you can deploy the drawn sympathetic smile and earnest nodding of the head before the magic wears off. Words. Lots of words.
      Trudeau is another poster child who turned in to a caricature of himself.
      Kirk did stuff.

        1. So Labour have now acted. The cancer policy is out and this has thrown National into oblivion!

  5. Comparing this garbage fire government to Kirk is a very long bow to draw. The headline is click bait I was hoping the PM had gone.

  6. I was only 11 when Kirk died but he made an impression on me. I kept the newspaper cuttings – still have them. Jacinda is not in the same league, and yes, it is a very different world we face.

  7. I think what Chris is saying is that Kirk died before the gloss had even started to wear off and had Jacinta died at the same point in her term, she would have been equally revered in the future. But Jacinta is still alive and the gloss is starting to wear off.
    His comment is timely. The left seem unaware that the electorate is not quite seeing Jacinta on an invincible pedestal anymore. And as in 74-75, they seem unaware of how the ethics of politics and electioneering is changing. Labour were unprepared for Muldoon’s new use of TV and his appealing to populist misconceptions (dancing Cossack adds etc) and had no way to counter this new style.
    In 2020 the new style will be Trump politics….. outlandish promises, blatant lies, personal attacks and libel, one-liners like ‘Crooked Hilary’ etc.
    Tamihere is trialing Trump politics in NZ right now and Goff seems to have no answers.
    If Tamihere wins Auckland there is a guarantee National will use the same formula.
    Is Labour and the left noticing ???

  8. chruskl – I missed this, “I have three priorities: climate, inequality and women”, but can see your concern.

    I don’t know who is writing Ardern’s speeches, but had she said.”I have three priorities: climate, equality and people,” I think it would have been a much more powerful statement.

    More so perhaps after a Nat govt which only cared about some people – this looks like more of the same thing, but with a gender divide this time rather than an income divide. I’m sick of gender divides and gender complexities, and having to Google to find out whether I am one of Louisa Wall’s “fucking terfs.”

    And after Bill English’s idiotically saying that our young men are useless druggies, it’s a shame to see them rendered invisible here. It didn’t have to be that way.

    I groaned at the boot camp for Islamic women. It may not necessarily be the most culturally appropriate way of getting Muslim women into politics anyway – community initiatives may work better – but my first reaction was what about all our young guys who are topping themselves.

    I don’t know how high PM Ardern’s pedestal is/was, but a lot of the pleasure at seeing her become PM was simply relief after the greedy grasping socially destructive years of the National Government.

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