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  1. Very good Christine
    The attack on Syria seems pointless except to boost the ratings of three insecure heads of government. I doubt that it will help any of them in the long run, probably the reverse.
    But the missile attack might have been intended to be much more damaging than it was. It seems to have taken out only the chemical testing facility and cancer research centre that was inspected last by ONCW in September ’17 and reported on last month as all clear for chemical weapons. It was doubtless warned to evacuate. But it was probably not the focus of missile defence by Syria either . Their military bases that were also targets seem to have been almost completely protected by Syria’s obsolete Russian ABMs. We might be looking at a different scenario if more had gotten through.
    What are they going to do next? There will be more fake gas attacks for certain. They get such a wonderful response. How much of the western public is going to suck it up next time? How long will it take for Jacinda to call enough?
    D J S

    1. And good on Golriz and the Greens . They are looking like the only party with integrity at the moment. Staying with their TPPA position and seeking truth before condemnation on this.

  2. “The indiscriminate bombing of homes, schools, utilities and medical facilities,shooting of protestors, torture,starvation as a weapon of war,people disappeared,on any scale seem of less consideration than scores killed by chemicals [by Assad].
    I quite agree Christine. Except I have yet to see any believeable evidence that any of this happened.Barrel bombs, as you well know, are a less lethal bomb than a conventional bomb, like those supplied by the U.S. and Britain to the Saudis, to cruelly bomb the people of Yemen!lAnd Mehi Hasan is a Wahabbi extremist who has always supported the anti Assad forces.Al Jazerra criticizes The U.S. Empire over Palestine, but supports it over Syria. Much like you do Christine! The people on the ground like Vanessa Bealey do not agree with you. Nor do the people of Damascus apparently, as they poured out into the streets in a demonstration of support for Assad after the U.S. Empire Fourth Reich criminal attack!Your post is thinly veiled propaganda for the U.S. criminal Empire.

    1. I’m amazed you read it like that again Historian Pete. It’s a critique of American foreign policy and intervention

      1. I had to read it again to see where Pete was coming from. But your paragraph quoting Mehi Hasan where he (she?) talks about the conventional weapons war crimes attributed to Assad , without questioning whether he could defend his people against the jihadists in any other way, and pointing out that US and allies operated in at least as forthright manner in Mosul and Raqqa causing at least as much “collateral damage” to local trapped human shield populations will be what he is referring to.
        D J S

        1. Medhi Hasan’s piece has been taken off the Intercept website. All the comments were very critical of him
          From Moonofalabama:


          On the same day the BBC, Guardian and Sky News published smear pieces against ‘bots’ the Intercept published a piece by Mehdi Hasan bashing an amorphous “left” for rejecting a U.S. war on Syria: Dear Bashar al-Assad Apologists: Your Hero Is a War Criminal Even If He Didn’t Gas Syrians.

          Mehdi Hasan is of course eminently qualified to write such a piece. Until recently he worked for Al Jazeerah, the Qatari government outlet which supports the Qatari sponsored al-Qaeda in its war against Syria. The Mehdi Hasan piece repeats every false and debunked claim that has been raised against the Syrian government as evidence for the Syrian president’s viciousness. Naturally many of the links he provides point back to Al Jazeerah’s propaganda. A few years ago Mehdi Hasan tried to get a job with the conservative British tabloid Daily Mail. The Mail did not want. During a later TV discussion Hasan later slammed the Daily Mail for its reporting and gerneral position. The paper responded by publishing his old job application. In it Mehdi Hasan emphasized his conservative believes:

          I am also attracted by the Mail’s social conservatism on issues like marriage, the family, abortion and teenage pregnancies.”

          Moonofalabama is a German blogger, sometimes his spelling and grammar reflects that English is a second language, but he’s usually pretty careful about facts

      2. Here are some interesting facts for you Christine from
        “Syrias Sunnis and the regimes resilience.” -Combatting Terrorism Centre- At West Point.
        1. Most of the Syrians Armies weapons are pre 1970 Soviet made. [That is why they , like the Palestinians have to make primitive rockets , they have to make their own weapons like barrel bombs. And the CIA then makes this into a propaganda construct.[the Israelis/CIA do the same to the Palestinians].]
        2. 70% of the population of Syria is Sunni.
        3.Sunni Moslems make up the majority of the pro-Assad Syrian Arab Army[60-65%]. Many hold high government positions.
        4.Interestingly the prominent role of Alawites[Shia sect] has not translated into special privileges for this group in general.
        5. 100% of the Syrian Opposition Army is Sunni.ie their opposition is very sectarian.
        6.The opposition want to have Sunni Sharia rule as per the lovely Saudi regime/Isis.
        7.A majority of the Syrian population don’t want this, they want a secular society. The only one on offer is Assads.

        When you look at the options available for the Syrian people you can see why they are a lot more enthusiastic about Assad than the alternative.You can see why the people that Robert Fisk and Vanessa Bealey spoke to on the ground in Damascus have no sympathy for the Syrian opposition.You can see why the Syrian people- Shia, Sunni, Christian, Druze, and a half a dozen other sects, have joined the Syrian Army and have fought the combined forces of Isis/Jihadi Sunnis, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Republics, and the U.S.Empire to a standstill.At the end of the day it is about what the Syrian People want, not what the U.S. Empire can force on them, like they have done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya,and Yemen, and what they have threatened to do in Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea!!!

      3. Hi Christine, you need to read it again yourself. Anyone thinking critically will read it exactly as Historian Pete has indicated. Most of the rest of it is good, but there is far too much of this type of statement being made everywhere without a shred of evidence to support it. Particularly the “barrel bomb” bullshit. They are a propaganda construct for idiots who think “precision weapons” are somehow safe and sanitary. Duh.

    2. Totally agree %100 with your reply Historian Pete,and yes Christine i read your blog exactly the same way that Pete did. I wonder how many have actually listened to Vanessa Bealey one of the very few reporters to have actually been on the ground in Syria and not reporting from there various front rooms in the UK.

      1. This just shows how “everyone knows” is dependent on where you are (you’re in New Zealand, right?). Near as I can tell (mainly judging from TDB to be honest), in Western countries “everyone knows” that Assad did the attack and if you suggest otherwise you’re an apologist. Just like “everyone knew” in the that Saddam had WMD and if you suggested otherwise you were a Saddam apologist, or maybe French.

        “Everyone knows” is what to pick out of background noise.

  3. Thanks Christine
    When this is all over one way or another(gulp) and if there is sufficient infrastructure to allow it, I wonder if there will be anything for the Syrian disaster, like the Chilcott report, or the UK parliamentary report on Libya.
    It is now conventional wisdom that the Iraq adventure was a total catastrophe with repercussions down the line for decades
    The Libyan report has not been widely discussed in the media, perhaps because it highlighted the media’s culpability in whipping up the conditions necessary for public acceptance…lies, lies and more lies about Ghadaffi the monster and impending genocide
    I accept that the Assads, father and son, are on record as coming down hard on the Muslim brotherhood and extremists in general, brutally hard, in the interests of a secular and undivided Syria,for the majority of Syrians
    However I am withholding judgements on Sadnaya and deliberate targeting of civilians, gas attacks etc, until I can be assured that the information we are fed has been stripped of partisan agendas.
    While I’m waiting, I prefer to do my own research.

  4. Really good piece Christine, so heartening to have a skilled writer lay it all out so thoroughly

  5. Great article Christine. and congratulations to the Greens for refusing to join the misinformed politicians in the other parties.
    The latest article from the Saker gives us all cause for concern as an American Carrier group steams towards Syria.

    https://thesaker.is/sitrep-a-false-flag-attack-on-the-usn-ships-next/

    Unfortunately Jacinda Ardern missed the real “nuclear free moment” of her government and that was to stand up to the manipulation and lies of the UK/USA/NATO and demand a real rules based approach to this conflict and not some fictitious construct of Teresa May.
    As Gerald Celente says, “When all else fails they take you to war”

  6. One minor correction to your article:
    “Obviously the proper course of action in face of these allegations, would be to call in the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons before military action is taken, and through recourse to the United Nations. But the inevitable Russian UN Security Council veto made such a referral a less preferred path for the western heavies, and unilateral airstrikes on Syrian targets were the sanction of choice.”

    The Russians vetoed the US proposal to bring in the OPCW because it was constructed in such a way as take a long time and dilute the outcome and the preplanned US strikes could go ahead. Russia had another proposal that was rejected by the USA. Sweden also offered a proposal which Russia accepted but the USA rejected.In the end the OPCW went in anyway after much delay blamed on the Russians but actually because of a heavily US influenced UN.

    1. It was the JIM(joint investigative mechanism) resolution proposed by the US that Russia vetoed.This would have identified the culpable party
      Instead Russia proposed that a JIM be given another year renewal, with the entire Security Council being given the responsibility for assigning guilt, but this draft was not passed

    2. The Russians and the Syrians called for the OPCW to come in immediately. They were one day away when the attack took place. What the Russians vetoed was a proposal to create a new and different parallel branch of the UN that would be given the authority to not only to determine what happened but to place the blame for what happened. Ie to act as investigator, judge and jury. Russia did not believe it would create an impartial body . And it would have taken months to set up so an inspection would have been postponed till way past it’s usefulness. The OPCW is already in existence to perform the appropriate function. That is what it was set up for.
      D J S

      1. The OPCW have finally, after much prevaricating by the Australian commander, visited the site in Ghouta and taken samples.

        https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-fact-finding-mission-team-visits-douma-syria/

        Such fools, there will be no evidence of chlorine after 5 days. Not that there was any in the first place.
        But I will bet a million or two that the OPCW will determine, as they’ve done before, that due to their inability to visit the site in a timely manner, (avoiding mentioning that it was their choice to NOT visit the site in a timely manner) were not able to form a conclusion on the matter, BUT have grave concerns that Assad done it.

        1. I think the OPCW stuck to what their proper roll was pretty well in the Skripal poisoning case when you get in to what they actually said. I think they will act with integrity here too.

        2. Agreed Brigid
          There are now issues of “national security”
          If there was no chemical attack, the whole edifice of lies comes tumbling down
          What loss of face and prestige for those long time colonists and meddlers in the ME, France and the UK
          Trump at least has the option of turning on his advisers for false intelligence and conduct a purge, Nikki Haley first .
          And surely compensation must be in order.
          And if doubt is cast on the White Helmets, how about our own National govt via Murray McCully turning over tax payers money to the WH.It’s illegal to fund terrorists
          This will all be covered up in the most stringent way

          1. Oh god. I didn’t realise McCully had funded the WH. Might be time to take some action about this. You game?

          2. I wrote to him outlining their background
            and where the Syrian Campaign in general was coming from .
            He replied in a very formatted way that NZ was proud to support the WH.
            We also sent over a fireman type to trainn them on dealing with fires. This took place in Turkey I’m assuming some sort of report would have been in order.
            I also pointed out that the White Helmets , with all the millions of dollars they are given, don’t appear to be subject to any audit process
            NZ taxpayers shouldn’t be paying money to unvetted suspected terrorists, and should have some sort of transparent accounting of where their money is being spent.

    1. Well that does nicely encapsulate the narrative the western MSM and western leaders would like us to believe, and hoping we will believe. But until there is a free election that allows the Syrian people to make their views clear, with Assad as an option , and they reject him ,fewer and fewer people are swallowing it.

    2. I would caution readers of the article linked above. In a brief read through I noticed comments such as The USA had helped Assad by bombing ISIS. Bullshit! The USA used quelling ISIS as a justification for being in Syria. We all remember the long lines of ISIS fuel tankers taking oil for ISIS to Turkey, completely safe from US bombs. What about the plumbers truck , still bearing its US sign-writing and adapted by ISIS as a gunship. What about the huge cache’s of weapons from US and European sources uncovered by the Syrian army. This war would have been over years ago if it wasn’t for the illegal presence of US and NATO forces. What was a minor insurrection has resulted in the devastation of Syria because of the unwelcome actions of US and NATO. With such an obvious lie I question the whole article.

    3. Thanks for this link, this sounds like a spot on analysis and rings true, from what I can tell from my fireside. I guess that’s why only the victor will be the one who emerges from this complex web of death and destruction . and means the place will continue to be pulverized until the last man standing. Probably Assad.

    4. There’s been a lot of deaths to get to this point. There’s just one more to go. When democracy Syrian style elects a representative of there choice Assad will be finished.

  7. One thing I think normies fail to consider is when capitalism yanky style collapses. Either capitalism Chinese style will emerge or we get a multipolar world where China, Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa become the dominant rulz based systems.

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