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  1. I strongly disagree.

    Peters especially is a superb politician and the Government is not exactly overflowing with superb politicians. I disagree with the way W.P often wields his power. I disagreed with his totally outdated stance against drug testing at concerts to help keep young Kiwis safe which has since been reviewed. Strongly disagreed with NZF putting a stop to the desperately needed Capital Gains Tax. I do however feel NZF is a strong coalition partner that for the most part , adds balance to the Government.

    What New Zealand needs at this time more than ever is a concerted effort from those in the media to highlight the divisive skulduggery the National Party is up to and the diabolical impact they will have on our beautiful country if they manage to get back into Government. Attacking an important Government coalition partner is doing little more than National’s dirty work. I’m sure Bridges and Bennett would be ecstatic to read this anti NZF thread stating NZ deserves better than that coalition partner.

    1. Yeah, I kinda disagree too. While electoral reform would solve a lot of problems let’s not kid ourselves that Winston is the person holding Labour back though. That particular role has gone to Grant Robertson who is doing way more to slow down any transformational ambitions that Jacinda may have had (if indeed she really had them).

      Until we get a government that isn’t neoliberal nothing serious is ever going to change and ironically enough, NZ First is the least neoliberal party in the beehive at the moment – annoying as they may be at times.

      1. Aaron,

        A big part of what is having fingers pointed at NZF at this time surrounds their foundation and the fact he is hated by our media but perspective is really important. Bridges and Bennett have already convicted Peters and NZF without a trial and demanding Peters be stood down. The NZ media then climb on board. Exactly the same bullshit occurred with the farcical alleged cover up of sexual abuse by our PM. Bridges and Bennett would have had Ardern executed at dawn. No trial required. GUILTY.

        National have not learned a thing and our media have learned even less. NZF are still well and truly in the game and know exactly where the finish line is.

        To my eye, the whole JLR and dodgy Chinese donations has potential to be far more damaging to National than the NZF foundation is to WP and NZF. JLR is just waiting to spill his guts in court. How ironic that Bridges is bleating about the integrity of NZF over donations.

  2. I find it weird that the post does not mention one of the biggest betrayals and u turns of NZ First policy and why they are currently at 3% which is their surprise and sudden u turn of their election immigration stance…

    It would involve a wokester mentioning the “I” word though which has been banned since in woke and neoliberal circles since 2017.

    The betrayal of NZ First is, that after campaigning for decades to stop NZ being the third highest immigration nation in the world per capita NZ First suddenly started to allow hundreds of thousands of temporary low paid migrant workers into NZ for the likes of Talley’s and the construction industry which helped keep wages low. They then allowed COL to reintroduce the migrant parents category (which even the Natz eventually had to stop due to all the granny dumping, pensions and health care spends https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/315435/migrants'-parents-cost-nz-'tens-of-millions‘) and concessions for more arranged marriages coming to NZ.

    It is also starting to look like NZ First foundation may have taken donations from apartment developers who sold mostly to Chinese nationals and thus surprise surprise the new build apartments (which in most cases are not affordable but luxury overpriced ones,) were exempt from the overseas buyers ban (along with Singaporeans, overseas residents like foreign students, Aussies and god knows how many other exemptions allowed).

    So my beef is more about NZ First’s betrayal for their voters and the increasingly lack of choice for voters, because the donations appear to have radically changed NZ First policy behaviour.

    In some ways it’s more alarming than the Natz who at least bother to be transparent as to tape their conversations relating to donations and MP list seats based on the ‘value’ of ethnic lines. Sarcasm.

    After some of the NZ First foundation donations, NZ First seem to have gone from supporting a protectionist labour stance and benefits, to the opposite, being extremely low wage employer migrant friendly.

    They also have allowed the bringing back the aged migrant category, concessions for arranged marriages to come to NZ, and watering down the overseas residents buyers ban such as exempting new build apartments. They also are in government with some of OIA’s highest consents being issued.

    Obviously they did not do this alone as Labour had to help them too! And who knows maybe the Greens joined in through the woke spectrum on the grounds of stupidity. Natz policy is across the board.

    In some sort of dirty politics guzumping as well, as what can be made of RNZ, because like NZ First, suddenly they have made a massive u turn to support anything migrant related and keep the gravy train of NZ visas and citizenship going for the 1% benefiting from it all… … all while constantly trying to take down NZ First and ‘exposing’ them.

    The NZ First betrayal is less about taking the donations and splitting them which seems to be rubber-stamped by most of the parties, but that NZ First took the donations and pushed through policy that was the opposite of their proposed election policies of keeping NZ in NZ ownership and stopping NZ mass immigration experiment in particular the giving away of NZ pensions to overseas nationals who don’t have to pay in or live in NZ very long to qualify and thus is tripling migrant pensioner numbers here, when Winston has been so outspoken on pensions in the past.

    I have never voted for NZ First because I perceive them as anti environment even though I support them on their former immigration and Labour protection stances.

    Sad to see them go down in some ways, and I don’t think it was by accident these ‘donations’ have suddenly been exposed so close to the election, nor the RNZ u turn!

    All roads seem to lead to neoliberalism or wokism in NZ.

    1. Neoliberalism and wokism are part of the same thing of course.
      The woke have done well from neoliberalism they are quite comfortable and from their position of privilege, see fit to pursue keyboard activism.
      The neoliberal system loves the woke- their activism is of course just hot air, yet it is a perfect tool for dividing and conquering- just watch these fools cheerleading their own loss of rights to free speech or right to silence!
      Corporate culture too loves the woke, so many niche markets to tap- veganism , carbon neutral, money to be made!
      And who would want to be the company without the gender neutral policy or the mindfulness courses! $$!

      Our slow march in to authoritarianism is being championed by the woke and the system LOVES it.

  3. That’s right keep blaming Winston for this governments ineptitude. All the power is in Arderns hands she can call Peters bluff and announce a early election, but she wont because she is weak and woefully out of her depth. We all knew what Winston is like, but we were so blinded by power that we chose to drink that poison anyway. The left in this country are a embarrassment.

      1. I dont disagree with you. But blaming Peter’s because our side wont deliver is a joke.

        1. But Mickey, I’m just not sure what isn’t being delivered. Yes Kiwibuild was a failure, some labour ministers were failures. I did list yesterday what Labour have achieved and to you and Peter Barry I just try to offer balance particularly to the N.Z. Herald right wing narrative.
          Here is a column yesterday..https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12310595
          Written by Ashley Church. Ashley Church who in 1987 he stood as the National Party’s parliamentary candidate for safe Labour seat of Napier. He finished in second place. It just needs balance.

    1. MickeyBoyle,

      Another misogynist bitter at National not being in Government.

      Who the fuck are you to say Ardern is weak and woefully out of her depth? You wouldn’t know if your arse was on fire.

      Bill English was a pathetic PM. About as much personality as a comatose mullet. All he could do was wander around spouting “strong stable Government” 40 thousand times hoping he could brainwash people into believing that. It blew his mind having to say anything else. The quintessential bean counter who was only PM because God (John Key) wanted that.

      Ardern is an extremely intelligent person. Regardless of political leaning, only a fucking moron would ridicule her intellect.

      She displays outstanding leadership skills. You go and get three very different rugby teams in your area with 15 decent players in each team all who have very different game plans. Drop in a few star players for good measure who want things done their way. Then merge those competitive teams into one team. Now you coach that one team for three years ensuring you can somehow win the league and keep the team together while under extreme pressure from other desperate teams with an army of supporters ridiculing, attacking and misrepresenting you and your team every step of the way. Even include a completely bias fucked media in on that. Then have clueless online trolls spouting off that you’re a weak coach woefully out of your depth.

      That vile campaign against Ardern is so incessant, powerful and widespread, my 8 and 10 year old grandchildren are repeating to me the abusive names Ardern is referred to by other primary school children routinely used after hearing their fuckwit parents. If there is a bad weekend on our roads, it’s Ardern’s fault. Not enough rain in your area, blame Ardern. A gang killing, blame Ardern. Perspective has been destroyed and lost by entitled, arrogant, selfish and divisive fuckwits still sulking that a party other than National has the audacity to govern NZ. It’s fucking ridiculous.

      You allege Ardern is weak because she “won’t stand up” to Winston Peters. I could fill the townhall with what you don’t know. Had Ardern “stood up” to NZF over the Capital Gains Tax, it would have unquestionably resulted in a constitutional crisis leading to a snap election. Christmas day for National. She was obviously deeply disappointed and frustrated about the CGT but had to manage her Government and avoid a crisis. She did that and the ignorant clowns call her “weak”.

      It must be remembered that NZF was not the only group opposed to the CGT. New Zealand was subjected to a sustained extremely negative scaremongering misrepresenting campaign all day every day by vested interest groups desperate not to pay their fair share of the tax burden. That campaign would have continued on 24/7 right up to election day.

      Had John Key made the same prudent calls Ardern has, the trolls would have been spouting off what an astute MAN and PM he is……..but it’s Ardern so SHE is weak and woefully out of her depth.

  4. Yeah naah Christine. Labour has Twyford who is the biggest joke in the coalition.

    Then, how about Genter and her light rail tram fetish in Auckland? Jobs for friends and family?

    I’d suggest NZ First is probably the best of the 3 in the coalition. However, let’s watch JLR murder National in court!

  5. What we really deserve is an end to neo liberalism but I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

    1. We actually deserve to not have Talley’s being able to influence all the major parties fishing policy which means that commercial fishing is running rampant in NZ and coasting on our ‘sustainable’ innovations from decades ago that have gone backwards under neoliberalism and certainly not keeping pace with advances in profitable trawler fishing that decimate fish and marine populations…

      Goodbye Maui dolphins was the $40k worth it?

      “Talley’s donated a total of $40,000 to eight other candidates during the 2017 election campaign – seven from the National Party and one from Labour – giving each of them $5000. All eight donations were disclosed by the respective candidates.”

  6. If you are against overfishing then Greenpeace have a petition to look at how all the fishing regulations have been stopped to prevent overfishing.

    https://act.greenpeace.org/page/56588/petition/1?ea.tracking.id=email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email-list&utm_campaign=Oceans&utm_content=Oceans+-+NZ+first+fisheries+scandal+-+25+Feb+2020+A1&ea.url.id=4584800

    In particular stopping cameras on fishing boats which are known to keep the fisheries honest!

    Can’t have that!!!

    Is this a set up, to get rid of NZ First forever, aka you get Talleys and other’s to donate to the NZ First Foundation and influence them, and then in an election year, reveal all!!! Two for the price of one! And so nice for the Natz who is Talley’s real home turf to help their mates to victory!

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