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  1. Just be careful allocating that $1.1B cannabis tax. You may not see much of it if Canada’s experience is anything to go by.

    Worth a read; https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67126243

    “Canada also has stringent laws on the types of products that can be sold, as well as their potency. Some argue that this has caused illegal cannabis in the country to continue to thrive even under legalisation.

    Consumers of cannabis edibles, for example, are able to go online and find products with a potency higher than the legal amount, Mr Smitherman said.

    Often, those products are sold at a considerably lower cost than what is being offered in licensed stores.”

    Legalising and taxing cannabis is not a cure. It involves potency regulation, compliance costs, distribution costs (shops in Canada are not profitable), and most importantly no brand development as only plain packaging is allowed.

    Still very easy to get higher potency products delivered to your home “Uber Eats” style by illegal operations at a cheaper price (cheaper by not having regulatory, compliance costs, distribution and taxation problems the legal supply has). You just need to know what number to call and have cash on hand.

    So that $1.1B in taxation will not be realised any time soon, if ever.

    1. Thanks for that Gerrit. Interesting and valuable info. Legalising it and letting the market set prices – competition – would that sort it out? And continue collecting tax while that happens. And using that tax for testing to make sure the product is pure and not a cover for some manufactured drug? And also help in drug rehab. And run chat sessions on philosophy and human potential and help people sort out a way for themselves in the process.

      I remember Aldous Huxley went to Mexico I think and tried mescalun. He thought it useful in controlled doses. What has happened to that? Is it around under another name?

  2. I noticed robberies on service stations is 60% up under this government .Clearly the tough on crime has scared the shit out of the bottom feeders and the gangs who are scared of Mitchel coming for their patches .

      1. Wow Trevor has become a troll, a “Bob the first” if you like. Glass houses Trevor.

      2. well he was born there and is clearly english unlike the shit you white extremists were posting so have you and yours apologized for your constant lies and race bashing.

  3. As someone on the far left I have always considered progressive taxation as the answer economic inequality but the more I learn about how fiat currency and the money supply actually operates I’m increasingly aware that this may not be the full picture.
    It’s very counter intuitive and goes against everything we understand and learn about the economy – taxes don’t pay for government spending. The purpose of taxation is to remove money from the economy to control inflation. This used to be well understood but has been erased from economic discourse.
    Here is a 3 minutes clip from UK economist Richard Murphy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnYhGD7xNig

    1. Interest cost is the problem. Basic economics require either an increase in the money supply or they increase the income divide between those charging interest and those paying it, both have negative consequences. This is a big picture view and people can use leverage as a way to get ahead however what they gain is lost by someone else and overall productivity does not increase.

    2. During covid $50billion was pumped into the economy to save banks, landlords, businesses and jobs, in that order. It stopped the economy from imploding. The government helicoptered in $15,000 for every adult in the country. If you didn’t finish covid with $15,000 in the bank then none of that borrowed money was given to you. Who ended up receiving the $50billion.

      WHERE IS THE $50 BILLION?
      WHO HAS THE $50 BILLION?
      WHEN WILL THE $50 BILLION BE GIVEN BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT (THE PEOPLE)?

  4. As someone on the far left I have always considered progressive taxation as the answer economic inequality but the more I learn about how fiat currency and the money supply actually operates I’m increasingly aware that this may not be the full picture.
    It’s very counter intuitive and goes against everything we understand and learn about the economy – taxes don’t pay for government spending. The purpose of taxation is to remove money from the economy to control inflation. This used to be well understood but has been erased from economic discourse.
    Here is a 3 minutes clip from UK economist Richard Murphy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnYhGD7xNig
    Here’s another on – there is no such things as tax payers money – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR9u7SAZ0oU
    You will need to watch these several times and listen to other MMT economists – Bill Mitchell, Warren Mosler before this transformation of understanding will take place.

  5. The left needs to include an argument for governments running higher deficits – a government deficit is not borrowed money – it is the difference between the new money a government creates (through the reserve bank) when it decides it’s budget – minus the taxation it receives in a given time period.
    For some arbitrary reason we are told that government deficits must be reduced to zero or balanced – however, this means that the overall money supply and therefore economic growth and development will be entirely dependent on private sector credit creation. In most cases this means stagnation or recession.
    If my reasoning is correct then I predict Nicola Willis will be forced to ‘borrow’ – increase the government overdraft with the reserve bank – in order to achieve economic growth and to get the employment rate back to electable levels.

  6. Growing like a weed, a legalized cannabis market won’t see a cent from me, but anything to part the ‘respectable’ middle classes from their money is still OK.

    First 20k tax free, given as a cash option through IRD, for beneficiaries as an ease into a ubi.
    Tax.

    GST off all supermarket shops using a winz payment card.

  7. Tax the rich? We are so f’ing stupid we can’t even get a Capital Gains Tax over the line. Ardern sold out and these absolute wankers wouldn’t even entertain the thought.

    1. You may be surprised but I do see the reasoning behind a capital gain tax as at present u taxed gains are distorting the market. It would need to work both ways though .At the moment 25% of sales are at a lose so that would need to be claimed as an offset tax.
      Also glad to see u were not completely blinded by Jacinda

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