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  1. Yup, don’t want to hear another excuse all day. Just want to hear a yup, found a flaw in the system and I’m gana spit shine the fucker with my god dam elbow.

  2. What you say Bomber means we are going to have ‘stolen children’ in NZ, following that appalling practice in Australia. The government needs to sort it out so overworked social workers aren’t making the wrong decisions. However flawed, past policy put families first (as carers). The system didn’t penalise the working class which by focusing on Maori it is doing. When I went to the UK in the 70s it seemed that problems with children were problems of the working class. After all,the middle classes are so much more caring and knowledgeable about how to treat children, lol!

    My father worked in Child Welfare and our family was close to much of what was happening about the welfare of children in the ‘old days’.

  3. This is one of those situations that I find difficult to lay blame. For the social workers involved and the people having to make the decisions about children in troubled homes it must be heart breaking work. It is also a completely thankless task – as this article high lights – because they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
    I suspect the answer to the problem lies in a mix of solutions that would include greater investment in services that can support troubled families and more investment in higher quality care for children that are removed.

  4. Andrew, perhaps you don’t know that in traditional Maori society many couples did not have formal rituals equivalent to today’s weddings, but got together informally like a lot of the general population are doing today. Past practices continue in most societies.

    You need to take a hard look at how dispossession of their land has affected Maori from 19C to the present day. It is hard for most of us when we are deprived of what is ours and then condemned for ‘not coping’. If I sound preachy, no more than you. I would rather think about values; caring human relationships which are special to NZ.

    1. +100…and Labour Party Government Rogernomics and the neolib Ruth Richardson Nact politicians that followed

      ….making institutionalised unemployment a generational thing for Maori and Pakeha workers which impacted negatively on social economic and emotional wellbeing of their families

      ….this is where the blame lies, not in racism or an outmoded patriachal church ( god help us the Catholic Church)puritanical morality

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