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  1. so Genter has got teeth too…who has the best set of mashers?..or fangs?

    much prefer Laila Harre!!!

  2. Bit of a stretch, don’t you think Martin?

    I think you are deliberately making a mountain out of a molehill.

    I, and most of us would have probably been completely unaware of this tweet, if you hadn’t mentioned it.

    What relevance has this random tweet aimed Laila Harre recently of the Internet Party got to do with the Mt Albert by-election?

    Since both Labour and the Green Party have ragged on about the Internet Party and Harre, at some length, how does this attack on Harre for leaving the Greens to head the Internet Party reflect badly on Labour?

    I think you are clutching at straws to make your case that there should be no contest of ideas between Labour and the Greens in Mt Albert.

    If there can be no contest of ideas between Labour and the Greens in Mt Albert, Martin, then where?

    Are you saying that the Green Party should just lay down to the Labour Party because Labour are the bigger Party?*

    *(which is the message LP activists repeatedly give me, when I say that the Greens need to challenge Labour over their climate policies.)

    1. You do understand that Genter had to then walk her attack against Laila back and apologise for it right Jenny?

      Put aside the fact that the entire Laila/Genter twitter fight actually highlighted the faction within the Greens that wanted a neutral strategic stance, and it proves my point that in the fog of war people will say things on social media that only serve to alienate and anger – the Mt Albert by-election will produce many such moments.

      Your claim that I’m saying the Greens should lay down for Labour seems to have missed every point I’ve made in every single blog I’ve written.

      The Mt Albert by-election is a strategic fuck up by the Greens and the harvest it will provide will be bitter to the progressive movement.

    2. A “Contest of Ideas” played out in public before a public and a media experienced in winkling out division and divisiveness. The “Fog of War” as Martyn puts it. A Red Mist obscuring the big picture to parties who absolutely must present a unified front (or hang separately).

      What could possibly go wrong.

      I think it is uncontested that the Greens white-anted Labour in a number of ways before the last election. My reading is that they harboured a secret dream of becoming the main Left-leaning party of opposition. But this is a new era, we hope. It is the expectation on the progressive side of politics that the grand view must become collegial, not adversarial. Differences must be parsed and moderated before going public. This is not a question of subsuming the views of one party to those of another. Rather it is how fraternal organisms construct the future.

  3. It was kind of true about Laila though. She joins the Greens late in the piece, gets involved in the inner circle, and then jumps ship to join the Internet Party taking all that confidential information with her. It put me off Laila. Maybe this Labour/Green thing just isn’t going to work no matter what anyone does.

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