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  1. We need to implement strong austerity policies, starting with a maximum limit of 2 years within your lifetime to receive any benefits, excluding the pension. You must work and pay taxes for a minimum of 40 years to qualify for the pension.

    If individuals are struggling to survive without any benefits, we should expand the qualifications for euthanasia laws to give them the option of being euthanized. This would help remove the burdens from society.

    If we set a maximum time limit on benefits and remove societal burdens, we can reduce taxes.

    1. Why give people the option of euthanasia? We could just make it mandatory. In fact, why bother with euthanasia. If anyone isn’t working and is struggling to survive we could just round them up into big camps and then execute them. Also, if someone doesn’t work we could disqualify them from access to any public services for them and their children.
      Actually why not round up the children of poor people and execute them as well – we could do it Gaza style just carpet bomb certain suburbs in our big cities – since statistically most of them will grow up to be poor anyway.
      I really think you’re onto something and this could very well be an election winning platform for Act or NZ First. And NZ society would be so uplifted and prosperous after implementation of these brilliant policies. A country of harmony and moral virtue for sure.

    2. Crikey mate, I was about to agree until I saw the euthanasia statements…steady on.
      I do agree that some time factor on state support would be a good idea.
      If I were king for a day I’d put in a 5-year ‘Universal’ Benefit where you could CHOOSE how you use it throughout your life:
      – use it to pay for study in your youth
      – draw down on it if made redundant
      – Draw down on it for maternity/paternity leave
      – bring your pension forward 5 years (manual laborers whose bodies are knackered by 60)

      1. You guys are really onto something here setting time limits on how long people can be poor. Also, if there are time limits set on how long people can be rich that would be a good move too. Then everyone could be averagely wealthy.

        1. I wasn’t clear sorry. To clarify, my idea is over and above a very low basic unemployment benefit. The idea is it could be topped up to “living Wage level” for up to 5 years as per my post.
          In my view, the first goal of State support welfare should be to prevent people from starving and/or turning to crime (a very low-bar, bare minimum) but more importantly, be available to give people a boost when needed to improve society as a whole.
          Thats what student subsidies/loans are in essence, state assistance to boost people & improve society. I just think it should be available to a wider group than middle class uni students.
          Rather than bring people down to an average, I prefer the idea of boosting them up. But the boost cannot be permanent. Like it or not, there will always be some limits on state support for individuals, we just disagree where that should be.

    3. So 99% of the population are already doing that so what will change .The biggest mistake ever in NZ was Muldoon stopping the retirement saving scheme set up by big norm in the 70s .There would be no one drawing the pension now because we would all have a million in our accounts and imagine how much NZ would have progressed on things like hospitals and schools with all those savings being invested over those 50 years .

      1. We don’t just want to thank Muldoon for our poverty, include the insurance industry, all the other Nats, the farmers and Rob’s mob that reckoned having a huge sovereign wealth fund was communism. It would have been dollar awesome if Kirk’s legacy had included the Superfund as well as ACC, Nuke Free and No To Aparthied.

    4. So the best way to implement your idea is to make people unemployed…

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/public-sector-cuts-health-new-zealand-planning-to-cut-nearly-1500-more-jobs/M5ZFZX422NBMFCQSFSECADPC4I/

      Your plan is being implemented by this government as we speak.

      In contrast, this government continues to use immigration as an economic tool yet axe vital services required to help service an ever increasing population.

      Our government are mismanagers of our country. They are simply clueless on how to run a country so therefore your idea whilst out of left field is right wing. I suggest you volunteer for your own idea of euthanasia and see if it works.

  2. At the end of the day, the Public Service got a lot bigger but with little discernible improvement in output or outcomes.

    Think of it as the annual non-performance review.

    1. Agreed – of the people I know who switched votes , the conversations were about the colossal increase in debt and spending for no discernable improvements/things going backwards.
      Nobody I spoke with actually wanted tax-cuts, they were upset at what they viewed as waste when they were struggling with constant price increases.

      1. they were to busy listening to luxon and co and did not bother to fact check anything clearly .They have no right to complain because they saddled the other 60% with this shit they owe us .

        1. Factchecking?? You cannot be serious? Nearly every metric available went backwards under Labour – even by their own measures.
          The lefts continual denial of this is positively Trumpian.

    2. Can you please provide evidence Henry, solid data and stats otherwise you are repeating Newstalk ZB propaganda. Roly Poly you could also provide more evidence to your ” by every metric “soundbite.
      The rights continual propaganda on Labour is positively Trumpian.

  3. Listening to Luxon yesterday was nausea inducing. He basically tried to claim credit for trade related inflation coming down and the bulk of his plan to increase productivity was teaching school kids maths. So nothing for the next decade then. On top of that they are cutting funding in science roles that could provide a future path way for all these new brains. The only plan they have is for the likes of Luxon. That and banging on about crime while fudging the numbers. Removing gang patches doesn’t provide jobs.

    1. I refer to economists for the state of our country, not a reject CEO who turned a working Airline into one making a loss.

  4. Where is the massive economic boost that the tax cuts were going to give .?No where to be seen because the government just bumped up stuff like rego to take the money back .Wait till the 12 cents per liter fuel tax hike kicks in in one big hit in 2026 .No doubt at the same time RUCs will jump 10% at the same time .
    How much interest is no boats paying for the billion she dumped in the wellington harbour ?my guess would be 3 million a year for the next 30 years .

  5. The next step is we are going to make private charities borrow on the open market to build social housing and then make out that we never needed such housing .The winners are going to be private developers if any houses are even built .I even see paid pupets in the housing sector touting the old mantra of the right ,THERE IS NO SHORTAGE ,what a crock of shit just to line the pockets of the doners

  6. ‘We need to implement strong austerity policies, starting with a maximum limit of 2 years within your lifetime to receive any benefits, excluding the pension. You must work and pay taxes for a minimum of 40 years to qualify for the pension.’
    Actually this might work to the advantage of the victims of austerity.
    In their well fed, well cushioned arrogance Make New Zealand Great Again assumes the poor and oppressed will docilely endure such impositions – but this might finally be the breaking point that means they realise that in their numbers and their pent-up anger they have power and take action.
    Instead of waiting for crumbs from the table they take their seat at the banquet. Will a reduced police force and reduced armed forces stop them? (or, perhaps, even join them?)
    Will we abandon the useless lottery of voting for Tweedledum or Tweedledee and actually implement a government without political parties and without corporate donations?
    Make New Zealand Great Again speaks glibly of euthanising starving people(making no mention of the children they contribute to our nation and that are our future prosperity.) He also assumes they would go willingly to their deaths because the ruling class tells them to. What if they resist? What if instead of starving they steal? What if instead of begging they seize? Did the British convicts set to Australia meekly accept poverty was their destiny? Did the impoverished masses in France, Russia and China? Why did Rome fight the long and bitter Servile war?
    “Arise you criminals of want! Arise you slaves of ignorance!’
    And if a revolution here is successful?

    No need to kill class enemies when they can be utilised for their labour.
    There are forests that can be planted by them. Polluted environments that can be cleansed by them. Infrastructure that can be built by their labour.
    Instead of euthanising this set of useless parasites we can give them the opportunity of redeeming through honest toil.
    Long live Revolution. Aotearoa is always great!
    PS
    (I am assuming Make New Zealand Great Again is serious but if it is a wind up I do apologise).

  7. Where is the plan for NZ?
    How are we not looking at our economy (for instance) as a whole / deciding what we want this to look like going forward / tailoring education etc around that to assist with this plan?

  8. lol at all the economic numpties arguing for government austerity – the government is not the economy and could easily be replaced by an AI and a website

  9. Even the U.K rejected Liz Truss and her daft economic policies….but Willis and co had exactly the same ‘tax cuts,grow the pie’ austerity and it is embraced here in…NZ.

  10. Slightly disingenuous. A bunch of former labour appointees, who advised Grant Robertson to spend the country into the ground have a crack.
    If we continue borrowing at this rate, debt servicing will be 100% of GDP before 2050.

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