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  1. If you’ve got any type of safety net it means that someone cares if people die.

    In New Zealand you have to prove that you need food and WINZ can just legally take it away.

  2. Anybody thart thought Winston would help any beneficiaries except those over 65 had not looked at his track record.

  3. It failed on the CP-TPP, housing and as for beneficiaries,the homeless, well that’s no surprise either. And that’s why I wont be voting for this mob next election or anyone else who fails to put the people of this country first.

  4. “This Government has utterly failed beneficiaries.”

    Yup.

    “The simple naked truth is that beneficiaries don’t have enough to live on and if punishing them for that is ‘the politics of kindness’, I think the Prime Minister requires a dictionary.”

    They don’t and she does. The one thing that this government could’ve done was to raise benefit levels by around 50%, as recommended by the expert advisory group. And it should have happened last year. But they’ve failed to do it.

    “The arcane relationship laws are set up to punish women and men who are struggling and used by WINZ to implement mass surveillance powers to infringe upon the privacy of beneficiaries in a way that no one else would ever accept…”

    There’s a history of this in WINZ and its predecessors, going back over 30 years that I know of. But it’s got immeasurably worse since the mid-1990s. It’s pointless and degrading: well past time for a different approach. This is another thing on which I expected the Ardern government to move speedily.

    “…to date Labour have done sweet bugger all to reform the toxic culture within WINZ and MSD towards beneficiaries…”

    Indeed. Yet another deficit from this government. It’s indicative of no courage. Or – worse – the government sees no need to implement change in this area.

    I’ve voted Labour all of my life – except during the dark night of Rogernomics – but no more. I’m done with them. They’re just as bad as the other lot.

  5. With all the bitching on this site you might think there was some kind of alternative. Really this govt is the best beneficiaries will ever get.

    Vote in National (or waste your vote on minor parties and hand National a win) and it will be all out war on beneficiaries once again. Payment cards brought in to take away freedom and humiliate people, more sanctions, indiscriminate abuse of beneficiaries…really you people are naive if you think there is a better option.

    1. Z: “Really this govt is the best beneficiaries will ever get.”

      If this is the best that this government can do, we’re all screwed. They came to power promising so much. And have delivered so little.

  6. Had I been PM Ardern coming into power, I would have looked at making a big bold generous gesture – well, more than a gesture in fact – and restored the Training Incentive Allowance, scrapped by Bennett or WINZ or whoever it was who decided to kneecap people’s futures.

    It would have been simple to implement – much easier than restoring the massive number of traditional apprenticeships – Post Office, Railways, etc – which trained people up in specialised occupations and guaranteed them life long employment – and it would have shown good will. It could have upskilled a significant section of the community – enabled them buy shoes for kids, and maybe afford to warm their abodes – heating garages can be a challenge, but if it’s packed full with people, I suppose they generate their own heat.

    Taken me a while to realise why the coalition govt didn’t just whip those TIA’s back.

    It’s so self-evident that self-improving is a better way to go, than struggling on govt handouts. But the fact is, the NZ govt doesn’t have to bother too much about people on benefits when it can exploit temporary immigrants whipped in for specific jobs, and then dumped. Even if I were sufficiently amoral to agree with the govt’s exploitation of foreign workers, it’s not clear if they even have plans for a sustainable future, or whether they make decisions on an ad-hoc basis, or whether they’re merely continuing the neo-lib policies dished out to them by brain-washed public servants – and sometimes each other.

    I am not PM Ardern, so reversing Bennett’s future-bashing did not happen, and it is becoming oh so easy to blame immigrants day by day now.

    1. Pip: “Had I been PM Ardern coming into power, I would have looked at making a big bold generous gesture…”

      Me too. And my choice would’ve been to raise benefit levels by around 50%, as recommended by the expert group. Not cheap, that’s for sure; but urgently needed, that’s also for sure. And it’d show that the government really meant it when it claimed to be progressive.

      “It’s so self-evident that self-improving is a better way to go, than struggling on govt handouts.”

      And I guess that this explains why benefit levels haven’t been raised. Neoliberal notions of self-improvement trump substantive assistance for the most vulnerable.

      “…whether they’re merely continuing the neo-lib policies dished out to them by brain-washed public servants – and sometimes each other.”

      Sadly, this is what it looks like.

  7. Expecting instant fixes for a Social Welfare system that has suffered 9 years of neglect and mismanagement from a National government is pointless. National also ran the economy down, increasing government debt from $17b to $85b, so Labour needs to sort that out as well. Labour have started fixing the problems but don’t expect them to be fixed overnight.

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