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  1. Yes Mike and all while us pensioners scrape tp stay alive under increased costs of food, shelter and power, and we have no increased pension allowance that was given us to subsidise our costs.
    So Labour are as bad as National are when robbing the most weak among us without a voice.

  2. ‘In my view, the setup is simply corrupt.’

    I’ve seen it and experienced it. Rotten to the core would be a good description. Those with money and assets and political power game the system to acquire more money and assets and more political power. And there are NO systems to challenge the rorts, kick-backs, bribes and rigged agendas.

    Public consultation is a FARCE, geared to the facade of consultation without ever delivering. Opposition is silenced, whilst the [outright lying] propaganda is given a free pass. We’ve seen it over and over again.

    ‘The new way forward must be based on an economic plan that puts people and jobs before profit and the planet and its health before growth.’

    Yes, well all we hear from our so-called leaders is a never-ending narrative about the need for growth to fix the short-term problems, even though we KNOW that growth one of the core fatal flaws at the heart of our collective predicament. And the reason for that is the fatally flawed banking system that ‘no one’ wants to talk about. .

    ‘Any government that puts the people and the planet first would then prioritise lifting the incomes of the unemployed and sharing the work that is available without loss of pay so everyone could have a job if they want one.’

    I strongly disagree on that one, Mike. Jobs are also a major component of our collective predicament because jobs are a component of the wage-slave-debt-slave system. And ANY activity within the framework of the fossil-fuel-based system causes life-threatening emissions of CO2 and other ‘nasties’, and usually generates yet more waste that no one knows what to do with.

    Only a return to pre-industrial-revolution lifestyles will fix the predicament. And ‘no one; wants to do that.

    Hence, we continue to degrade the environment towards the point at which it no longer supports life.

    We’re now at the low point on the annual ‘staircase’

    Daily CO2
    Oct. 6, 2020: 411.18 ppm
    Oct. 6, 2019: 407.92 ppm

    and begin the inexorable march towards a new, record high atmospheric CO2 next May of around 420 ppm.

    https://sioweb.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_two_years.png

    And we face the prospect of 2021 delivering the shockingly bad news of NO SEA ICE in the Arctic in the late summer, with all the dire ramification that will bring.

    ‘The government would then prioritise policies that create a genuine clean, green New Zealand rather than the rather degraded version that exists now.
    That would be a truly transformational Green New Deal and it could start the day after the election.’

    Don’t expect anything other than futile, counter-productive attempts to preserve BAU, Mike. I don’t.

    Expect more of the same [neoliberal bullshit] until they can’t do it any longer…..which will probably be a few months into 2021 if what I have been reading from overseas is correct.

    1. You have said it.
      “Only a return to pre-industrial-revolution lifestyles will fix the predicament.”

      I have been putting that proposition forward for discussion for some years.

      There is not another solution. All the “smart” ruses to make things improve all fall flat when worked through to their logical conclusion.

      Basically we cannot use harvested energy the way we are and have been progressively for over 200 years.
      That is the key to changing direction.
      But the costs of change are great and unavoidable.
      If we do not drastically and progressively reduce energy harvesting, then total collapse and wipe out of most species including the predatory humans lies ahead.

      Population reduction will either be planned, purposeful, stringent and ongoing or we will die off more randomly with environmental collapse including the human food supply.
      The likely alternative is resource wars on a scale unseen, with brutality and tribal slaughter, starvation and genocide. This latter scenario is what many wealthy cabals may be preparing for.

      Taking the baseline at about 1750 with a rising increase of human population being about 0.2% pa. This period signals the upward swing in population increase but still with population under a billion

      The present state of things includes

      A. Nearly two thirds of baseline Non Renewable Natural Resources have been consumed with all the easy access resources having been consumed.

      B, Our rate of resource consumption is at an all time high and increasing but looks to be reaching a peak within a matter of months then rapidly declining.

      C. Industrialisation has been rapidly increasing with the supply of energy and natural resources.

      D. Every doubling of natural resource use has meant close to the quadrupling of environmental pollution and degradation.

      E. The increase in human population has been a result of energy harvesting resulting in widespread production of metals, exponential increase on industrial processes leading to technologies that have streamlined the production of food, shelter and medical tools to control diseases. So the natural limiting constraints to Human population have been altered. The population is out of control and in overshoot.

      D. The increased population now demands an unprecedented supply of energy.

      E. To harvest energy we need to use natural resources and to consume energy we need to use natural resources. To recycle materials we need energy and consume more natural resources. To live differently to what our ancestors did about 1700-1800 we need harvested energy and consume our finite natural resources. There is no way passed this energy/ resource / pollution / loss of wilderness short term path that leads to collapse.

      F. Humans rely on soil to produce food but through intense industrial cropping , use of fertilisers which kill the precious biota in the soil, use of ecocides to control “pests” and also toxify ground water and the target food produced, use of mono-cropping, and genetically altered plants; then the very crux of food production is being drastically degraded continuously.

      Pollinating creatures are dying off and residues of plastic, DDT, glyphosate and other industrial chemicals, microfibres from tyres and synthetic fabrics, detergents, loss of wilderness and habitat for millions of species who have been a part of soil formation over millions of years, also an important evolution of plants that are resistant to disease but disappearing as we selectively breed or alter.
      Our food supply is becoming more fragile and in spite of attempts to find alternative methods of growing / harvesting food, the least energy and resource intensive is permaculture using manual methods and animals to provide pulling power for plows and drawing water.

      G. The sea is acidifying rapidly killing off corals, preventing the formation of shells on thousands of species, limiting the population of plankton that is a major producer of the atmospheric oxygen.
      As well waterways no longer provide food and resources as they did due to over use, pollution, capture of water for irrigation, Irrigation which alters soil and leaches out nutrients and causes long term salination which renders soil useless for horticulture.
      Ground water reserves that have taken hundreds of thousands of years to accumulate after the last ice age, are being stripped by deep well irrigation in many of the world’s major food production regions. Water has been harvested into overshoot and there is no way back.
      Peak grain globally was in 1987.

      H. The consumption of wood as a fuel, and building material has seen progressive removal of forest and bush that served as wilderness, habitat for insects that we depend on, natural carbon sink to off set CO2 produced by many species and fires, local climate inducing vegetation that uplifts ground water and increases rainfall and seasonal regulation that wilderness and habitat needs to remain viable and produce soil.
      At present we are felling and burning off vast tracts of forest to graze cattle and grow introduced commercial crops such as palm oil.
      Old forest may have taken since the last ice age to evolve along with its creatures are being removed.

      I. Pollution resulting from energy harvesting, resource consumption and over population, has degraded our environment past the point where humans can stop the now runaway increasing temperatures globally.

      Our only hope appears to be an immediate cessation of pollution and harvesting of energy with an immediate application of what we knew worked prior to 1800.
      Population can be reduced and it is economically sensible to do that starting now. Our idea of what an economy is needs serious revision.

      China has/had a one child policy that has persisted for decades and in spite of an increase in life expectancy its population will peak and then reduce.
      But such programmes will be too slow and childless couples will need full recognition and social reward for their contribution to the survival effort.

      J. As starvation / war / disease / decreased life expectancy and the health systems break down, Human numbers will decrease but out of our control.

      K. We must adjust our psyche to accommodate the limited possibility of a future and work together rather than compete with disastrous results.

      The modern conveniences are wasteful and beyond what humans can afford.
      The internet will go as well as most electronics.
      Human knowledge is our greatest asset and how the important knowledge can be retained is problematic.

      A crash will create unprecedented destruction .

      The only chance to avoid that is to work together forming small cooperative communities that consume little natural resource and nurture their soil and knowledge.

      As sea level rises all major coastal cities and land will cease to provide what they do today.

      A lot of reorganisation will be needed and selfishness will be the enemy of a human future, should we create the chance to have one.

      1. Yes, John.

        The facts are irrefutable. But this insane society does not determine policy on the basis of facts, unfortunately; policy is determined on the basis of [faux] perceptions of entitlement and the [faux] economic theories promoted by off-the-planet economists, whose bizarre theories omit most of the determining factors yet are taken as sacrosanct by politicians and the mainstream media.

        13 years ago, in a television interview, I suggested [human] die-off would be of the order of 5 billion.

        13 more years of increased overshoot, increased squandering of resources and increased degradation of the environment means it’s now it’s now of the order of 6 billion who are going to die as a consequence of the insanity of mainstream economics and politics.

        Pretty much all the forecasts of ‘Limits to Growth’ are manifesting on pretty much the times scale indicated in 1972, some a little earlier, some a little later.

        It will be ‘interesting’ to see how much longer whoever forms the next government can keep promoting all that is destructive and self-defeating when everything is disintegrating before their very eyes. My guess is 6 months (maximum).

        That said, human stupidity is infinite, as Einstein pointed out many decades ago.

      2. Don’t worry about sea-level rise.. a 90+ yr old pushing a walking frame could out-run it.

        1. Yes, but can a city build not much above current sea level outrun a 90+ yr old pushing a walking frame?

          How about a city build BELOW current sea level and already dependent on constant pumping to keep going?

          You are right though: people who are starving to death won’t be concerned about sea level rise.

  3. There’s been a lot of comment on this RAND Corporation study that finds the 1% have skimmed $47 trillion from the 99% in the USA between 1975 and 2018, all the more significant because the RAND Corporation is usually thought of as a business / Establishment think tank (founded by the Douglas Aircraft Company in 1948): https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-1.html. So in other words not just the usual bunch of lefties ;-).

    RAND find that the gap is widening by $2.5 trillion a year and that’s how much would have to be turned around in taxes on the 1% and/or direct government money handouts to the 99% each year just to stop the gap from widening further. Probably quite similar in NZ though the absolute numbers would be smaller.

  4. People before profit and jobs and the suggestion that you worked if you felt like it but still got a living wage would only be said by someone with no idea of reality. Out of profit come increase in wages and tax . A fair wage for a fair days work should be the aim. The only organisations that can work without a profit are the government and councils and because of this they waste money as they are not held to account like private industry.
    Profit should not be at the expense of the planet so an industry needs to be profitable to be able to avoid pollution which is usually a more expensive way of operation.

    1. The more young people live with their parents and grandparents, the more that will deepen the impact that corona will have on society. You can’t squeeze more out of the households. So we better have credible wages policies to reduce crown debt. It’s not impossible just don’t let the haters win.

    2. Profit should never be at the expense of community.
      Both Govts and Councils do a far better job of service provision than any private for profit company.
      Where they have strayed is putting their functions out to private contractors and ready for privatisation CCOs.
      Beware of the myths that Govt are inefficient.

  5. People before profit and jobs and the suggestion that you worked if you felt like it but still got a living wage would only be said by someone with no idea of reality. Out of profit come increase in wages and tax . A fair wage for a fair days work should be the aim. The only organisations that can work without a profit are the government and councils and because of this they waste money as they are not held to account like private industry.
    Profit should not be at the expense of the planet so an industry needs to be profitable to be able to avoid pollution which is usually a more expensive way of operation.

  6. https://www.oxfam.org.nz/news-media/media-releases/new-global-index-shows-catastrophic-failure-to-tackle-inequality-left-majority-of-worlds-countries-woefully-unprepared-for-covid-19/

    Chema Vera, Oxfam International’s interim executive director, said:

    “Governments’ catastrophic failure to tackle inequality meant the majority of the world’s countries were critically ill-equipped to weather the pandemic. No country on earth was trying hard enough to reduce inequality and ordinary people are bearing the brunt of this crisis as a result. Millions of people have been pushed into poverty and hunger and there have been countless unnecessary deaths.”

    System. Change. Now.

    1. Yeah right!
      Read the replied to the rant linked.

      Hey our seas are absorbing the heat and getting warmer or is that a conspiracy amongst thermometers.

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