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  1. I think we should be realistic. Despite the lies from CIA employees like Anne-Marie Brady about ‘debt trap diplomacy’, China has never actually seized control of any of the third-world infrastructure it funds, unlike the US and its IMF puppets.

    If we’re going to allow privatization, the Chinese are the least bad international partners.

    Of course, in a civilized country, advocating privatization of New Zealand infrastructure would be a capital crime, imposed retrospectively.

    1. China is the least bad international partner? I think that is completely the wrong assessment. You somehow let your anti US sentiment cloud your judgement of China

  2. People are rightly concerned about privatisation, including to Iwi. I remember hiking up Mt Tarawera for a $2 koha – its currently $189 per person and no entry otherwise. Urawera National Park has been inhospitable to anyone other than a few for a long time. In Auckland the Tupuna Maori Authority wants to clearfell Maunga with no local consultation and will spend $1M in court to establish that right (failed), and prevents people entering to watch Guy Fawkes night (with Security Guards funded by Rates of course). There is no consultation or accountability for these decisions.
    Apart from the Tribal elite who feed at the public trough, everyone else’s rights and opportunities are reduced.

    1. Try getting access to any private home in Remuera (or other areas) & see how long your attempt lasts. While I can appreciate the sadness at being denied access to areas that were accessible in the past (mainly due to the rights we denied to the rightful owners) the Iwi are just doing what (almost) every other private land owner does.

  3. Yes, had a peruse of the membership of Infrastructure N Z, all the big boys are there including employer lobby groups…strange no unions represented….CTU?…suppose all the labour will be fly in fly out or the preferred method these day just fly in and stay & add to the infrastructure problem we are trying to solve!

  4. However, if the water entity becomes insolvent, the debt falls back on the councils.

    Seems like lose-lose to me.

    1. I think the wording in the amendment actually says it comes back on us as ratepayers unless I am mistaken.

  5. Thats BS. Bro NZ during the last 150 years when it was a poorer but possibly more soverign (owned some of its banks) country was perfectly cabable of building its own infrastructure railways,roads,hydrodams,electricity grid,oil&gas wells, steel mills, water dams & piping. There is absolutely no reason NZ cannot fund and build any water supply infrastructure it needs today.

    1. The expertise we had in earlier times has all gone and it will be hard to get back together again.Knowledge was past on as one person retired and another took their place and grew into the role he took on . I was amazed when 2 years ago I went to hear Marama Davidson at a local WEA.
      Someone mentioned M.O.W. asnd she had no idea what they were talking about or what they did .
      We need to have an educated younger generation to take on all these roles but we will not get it when teachers need to go on strike to get better conditions .

  6. “The romanticisation of Māori Capitalism is that it is less venal than Pakeha Capitalism,”

    Yes its romantic. The reality is the maori capitalist elite sold the land to the english and the current maori capitalist elite might think twice but would ultimately have no qualms about selling the water to the chinese.

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