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  1. Shocking. Looking forward to Labour and Greens actually speaking out against the zombie TPPA. Hopefully they are not going to be enablers from the side lines…

  2. Totally agree Jane. It is clear that National wants to resurrect this treasonous deal and have it sealed so that any new government cannot reverse it. I’m sure that this will be a red line issue for many voters and if Labour wants to win the election then they must lead the charge on killing the TPPA for good. The Australian Labour Party have opposed it.

    Where the hell are the Greens outrage on this ? On Q&A Meteria unveiled a package for ALL Mother’s and children ( not need based) which they obviously see as a priority and which I cynically see as something that they may feel they can successfully negotiate with either a Labour or National government like their Home Insulation scheme.
    My perception of what the Greens should stand for is firstly the environment and as a second string, social activism because Homo Sapien is part of the environment.

    Surely they should be denouncing the govt on issues such as stopping the theft of our water, environmental reforms, liveable wage, promoting NZ as a peace keeping nation , and most importantly raging against the TPPA.

    So when the US was part of the secretive trade deal it was suggested that the TPPA could add $2.7 billion to our GDP over the next 12 years (.9%) but when questioned on what the figure would be without the US now, English was unable to specify an amount no doubt because it will be a pittance and thus dead in the water.

    So for a few reductions on tariffs English is going to enable foreign investors to increase their powers over NZ by way of allowing them to sue our govt under the ISDS system, take profits out of the country, prevent the govt from initiating environmental reforms, and force a change of laws that reflect those of the US.

    We will get to experience what it is like to live in an occupied NZ , a country where we will be stripped of our sovereignty, independence and assets !

  3. The is no chance of a Little led Labour Party taking a firm stand on this, most of the Aotearoa Labour Party’s MPs are neolibs thru to the core of their beings.
    Little will fall back into his well used possie on the top of the fence & all the rest will follow suit to ensure they don’t stuff their place on the list.

  4. Update: Bill English said on Q&A on Sunday that getting the TPPA implemented ‘can only happen if there isn’t some renegotiation’. But he and Todd McClay know that other countries are demanding significant changes. They just aren’t telling us. Now the foreign media are exposing them.

    The Toronto Sun quotes Canada’s minister as saying each country would re-evaluate its needs. Canadian officials as stressing that ‘even the countries most enthusiastic about the previous agreement understand that it must be significantly altered before it can move forward.’

    Malaysia’s media says: Some nations like New Zealand, Australia and Japan have been pushing for the deal to continue, but Malaysia’s Trade Minister Mustapa Mohamed said in an interview on Friday his country was less keen to proceed. “One of the reasons we decided to be part of the TPP was the potential access to the American market,” he said. “And if that does not happen one of the major motivations to be part of the TPP will be removed.” Mustapa added if the remaining countries went ahead the pact should be renegotiated. “In the event it’s TPP minus one, in our view it cannot be the one that was agreed in Auckland in February 2016,” he said.

    Why is National misrepresenting the reality? Because it allows them to deny the need for further debate, including in Parliament, and to depict the opposition parties who are rightly criticising the “zombie TPPA’ as damaging the national interest. A cynical exercise in spin for short-term electoral purposes, knowing that any revised text would become public well after the election, if at all.

    1. Jane;

      “Why is National misrepresenting the reality? Because it allows them to deny the need for further debate, including in Parliament, and to depict the opposition parties who are rightly criticising the “zombie TPPA’ as damaging the national interest.”

      On TV1 news,Mon 22 May,Bill English used the phrase “Dark clouds of Nationalism” [looming] in defense of his eagerness to get the deal done.

      This says it all. National does not care about any loss of Sovereignty.
      And I very much doubt that Labour does either. (Same Puppet Masters)

      We all know TPPA has nothing much to do with trade at all but more to do with
      control of Governments,their SOE’s,Our Pharmac and the Internet by Off-Shore
      Entities.

      NZF could not possibly support this.

      Cheers.

      Keep up the good work,Jane.

  5. “But until we hear Labour, and especially the invisible trade spokesperson David Parker, unequivocally reject the zombie deal there is nothing to guarantee they will have any backbone.”

    What I heard David Parker say on RNZ at around midday was so far not encouraging. All he had to say was, that Labour opposed any new TPPA deal as long as the issue of foreign land sales were not addressed.

    That is just a useless and weak comment, as land sales are not even really a “trade issue”, although an important other issue.

    As for the election, yes it now is an issue, and it better be addressed appropriately and cleverly by the opposition. The populace is already being conditioned to welcome moves to advance more “trade opportunities”, the MSM give much air time and space to the government’s position, while we hear little from the opposition parties.

    The MSM is as biased as usual, as on Sunday on TVNZ’s Q+A Meteria Turei announced new Greens policies in an interview, which NONE of the rest of the MSM have even reported on.

    Most people do still not get it what it means, the TPPA, and how it will most likely affect them. The conditioning or brainwashing that has been done has so far succeeded in most daring not to oppose anything they are told will only be good for NZ. The repeated talk of “JOBS” and “Secure Jobs”, “well paid jobs”, that is what they are told, but we know by experience, that many jobs have left the shores, possibly forever, and local manufacturing and even some service industries, have moved elsewhere.

    Having dealt with a Telco re internet issues recently, I was again reminded, that the healthy profits made here for shareholders are at the expense of local jobs, as I was over the phone talking only with people in call centres in the Philippines!

    1. The statements ‘But until we hear Labour, and especially the invisible trade spokesperson David Parker, unequivocally reject the zombie deal there is nothing to guarantee they will have any backbone.’
      ‘Ironically. Labour may prove more reliable on this than New Zealand First.’ Is contradictory. Besides any alternative to the TPPA is not ratified, it would be regarded as a new treaty and would therefore have to follow the same legal process, including addressing iwi interests and concerns, and it would have to be taken back to parliament, despite what Bill English has said, after all, those are the rules that Key/English’s government had set. The leader of the Labour party Andrew Little reaffirmed a few days ago “We don’t accept the erosion of our democratic institutions’ rights to make decisions in the best interests of New Zealanders” Labour’s anti TPPA position remains intact, as too the reasons Labour rejected the TPPA in the first place. On morning report Bill English acknowledged that the opposition is against it. The focus and the pressure should be brought to bear on the National government that is manically flogging the hell out of this dead horse. It’’s side tracking the issue by singling out Labour, when National is persistently ignoring public opinion and opposition’s rejections of the deal. The government has a habit of ramming through controversial legislation, despite what anyone says. We know how to deal with zombies, we know where to hit them where it hurts, vote the bastards out, that would swiftly put an end to this nonsense.

  6. “The driving rationale being given for all of this is the Holy Grail to re-engage the US in the TPPA. They may be betting on the impeachment of Trump and his replacement by pro-TPPA Vice President Mike Pence. Or they may be playing the long-game until after the 2020 election.”

    Yes, that is exactly the motivation behind all this!

  7. Time for another lot of country wide marches/protests – just to remind those ‘ in power’ ( corrupt bullies) how unpopular this deal STILL is.

  8. It’s outrageous. “Really off the planet” is spot on. National are utterly shameless, a blazingly corrupt and dirty outfit. They do not work for the New Zealand people, they work to trash New Zealand for private gain. And yet, if it was left up to mainstream media, no one would ever know.
    Thanks Prof. Kelsey!

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