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      1. ‘The most important first step is get the government to adopt a moratorium on future negotiations until it conducts a full open review of the implications of these agreements, including the risks of investor-state disputes. But that will only happen if ‘we the people’ force them to do so.’

        Yes we agree – TPPA will strangle ouur county and Government powers to change anything in our favour if it is passed and another recession comes our way as predicted, and this TPPA issue should be mentioned tonight at the Climate change conference in Auckland.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uvC_L4Mie8

        https://thestandard.org.nz/the-climate-debate-tues-7pm/

        The Climate Debate Tues 7pm

        Written By: NOTICES AND FEATURES – Date published:7:38 pm, September 18th, 2017 – No comments
        Categories: climate change, disaster, election 2017, Environment, greens, labour, maori party, national, nz first, sustainability, TOPS – Tags: climate debate, WWF
        The Climate Debate organised by the WWF.
        We know it’s 100% possible to unlock a safe climate future for all New Zealanders. Climate action is bigger than politics – but it’s election season right now. Will political parties come together to set a course for a 100% renewable energy, zero carbon future? Or will climate action remain a political football?
        WWF-New Zealand’s Climate Debate is your chance to find out.
        • What: This election’s big climate debate.
        • When: 7pm on 19 September
        • Where: AMRF Auditorium (Lecture Theatre 1) in the University of Auckland Grafton Campus, 85 Park Rd, Grafton, Auckland
        • Who: Megan Woods (Labour), James Shaw (Greens), Carrie Stoddart-Smith(Māori Party), Denis O’Rourke (NZ First), Damien Light (United Future), Teresa Moore (TOP), and a speaker TBC from National – all MCed by business journalist Rod Oram
        Brought to you in partnership with Oxfam New Zealand and Fossil Free University of Auckland, the Debate is your chance to learn about the parties’ climate policies – and ask your political representatives the questions that matter to you. We already have an exciting mixture of speakers from almost all of New Zealand’s key political parties coming along, just days before the election.
        Business journalist Rod Oram will be your MC on the night, asking all the candidates the questions that matter for Aotearoa’s climate future.
        Livestream here.

    1. Because free trade is good, and we want to be able to buy overpriced, disposable electronics and other designer landfill, so who cares if we have to sell grandma or a kidney for the privilege?

      Serious answer, just look at who:
      a) owns most of the mass media
      b) advertises in most of the mass media

      I think there is a huge danger too that people who don’t know better will start loudly supporting corporate control treaties (“free trade agreements”) because Trump opposed one, and thus fall for the propaganda that supporting global free flow of people is the same thing as supporting global free flow of capital and ownership of key public infrastructure. When people ask me what I think about “globalization”, I always ask them “globalization of what?”.

  1. Reading between the lines I suspect Prof Kelseys preferred electoral outcome would be for a Labour /Green govt which would press for some renegotiation .This would in turn allow other countries to renegotiate their positions over numerous chapters and in effect scuttle the deal with impractically long renegotiations .Nice .

    So it seems politically if we want to stop TPP we should not do anything to undermine the Labour vote . The original deal took six years to complete , and National who wish to proceed with virtually no new negotiations must be getting worried it will unravel under a Labour Govt.

    She also raises the valid point about ISDS provisions and the right for foreign companies to sue for loss of profit if their contracts , licences and permits are cancelled or substantially varied by a more progressive Government.

    A 10c levy on bottled export water could raise 3.2 billion dollars of extra Govt revenue per year . But if the TPPA comes into force before we place that levy then ,the placing a levy after TPPA would constitute a breach of contract/licence/permit to foreign owned water bottling plants who could then sue us in ISDS offshore business courts for their loss of profit .That is the annual water levy .

    In effect we may not be able to raise that revenue by way of a royalty on Water or may not wish to impose one to avoid the risk of long and expensive legal battle . So these large companies could be getting our water for free for up to 35 years contributing nothing to our economy.Great .

    TPPA has been surprisingly under the radar this election , and may be now we know why …..

    Im picking smart people will vote Labour for their electorate vote and Green for their party vote ,as the Greens are fully against the TPP.

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