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  1. Personally I’m over politicians whose reason for being is race, their race. I cannot think of a positive example of this ever working out. Ever!

    And I’m over Maori being portrayed as ignorant backward imbeciles who need their hands held and their noses wiped according to their “representatives”. What an insult. The vast majority do fine, contribute positively and just get on with life like the rest of us without with the sniping and whining and shit stirring like some of their so called political leaders do.

    Like the rest of us mere mortals, life has it’s ups and downs and it’s tough at times. Few of us want nothing more than this just pull ahead in one direction and get on with it. But clearly there are a noisy few who don’t. It’s not about “boomers” or “Pakeha” being the usual whipping boys, being the evil here, they don’t have the time or the inclination to be that evil but that bullshit certainly helps the victim narrative and every culture has it’s problems.

    The never ending ratcheting up demands from the victim industry is a beast that cannot be sated and after 5 plus decades of it, the vast majority of us are over it. I see the Waitangi Tribunal has ruled that Northland Crown land must be returned, etc, etc, but don’t be fooled that that is an end to it because it ain’t. I see what Bolger means.

    By kicking co-governance down the road to 2024 rather than either committing or ruling it out and after 3 then 5 Waters, Labour have cemented the chances of being reelected to zero. Even a biblical miracle won’t save them with that spectre hanging over voters.

    1. FFS Xray are you really that dumb?

      There has never been a settlement with the predominate iwi in Northland. This is not 5 plus decades you numb nuts, its over 160 years.

      Oh and wait the land was stolen, it’s how and why most indigenous people around the world live on or below the poverty line.

      Land is power, or does your limp dick racism making you blind to that also.

      But sure protect the greedy and blame the poor once again.

      You really are just a one trick pony.

      1. What the actual fuck are you on about? And while we are playing the race card, real early to shut down the debate, what is this subject about? Race, you tool! It’s never ending in this country.

      2. Quiz question :
        What is the biggest business in the South Island
        Which organisation is the biggest landlord in the South Island and owns the most rental properties?
        The same group own the most land in the South Island.

        Who are they?

        Now look down the same size of group in the North Island.

        NZ Government not included.

        1. Ngai Tahu does not have much land at all and I am ‘forgive me’ assuming this is what Alan M is driving on about.

          I think he needs to do a bit more homework.

          The facts are that the Yanks, Asians, Australian and Canadian companies own significant parts of the South Island. Way more than Ngai Tahu.

          Bloody foolish to flog our country off to other countries.

  2. Yes to integrationism and working class internationalism, and no to racialist chauvinism!

    The corporate donors and their lobbyists had a problem: rising strikes, a rejection of neoliberalism by angry workers, and strong anti-war sentiment.

    The Clintonite solution was to divide the working class by reviving racialist politics. Wall Street has spread this poison far beyond the Democratic Party.

    The inequality of the races must be solved by a return to integrationist policies: desegregationist housing projects, slum clearance, reversal of all state housing privatisations. Reinstate the Full Employment Policy, import substitution, free tertiary education, and zero-fee medicine.

    Resume elections to the Upper House, with the seats named after the native tribes. Abolish the Maori roll and seats.

    Each native tribe should be assigned to an existing province, with each province receiving an equal number of seats in the Upper House. The provinces may lobby Parliament for greater delegation of powers.

    Outlaw the appointment of any official based on race or native tribe. Ban segregated facilities, organisations and government agencies.

    Permanently conclude Native land settlements. Land to the tiller, regardless of race. Any funds for separatist government programmes to be diverted to historic building protection, and the promotion of the arts of the native tribes.

    Native tribal nobility should be granted local titles of nobility and related rights, until such time as the British Empire abolishes the gentry and peerages.

  3. Hey Martin, every time a Maori leader speaks and uses the term ‘our people’.
    Eg ‘this will benefit / improve conditions for our people’.
    There are many examples going back decades.

    Is that inclusive, or exclusive language?

    Does include my non-maori freinds, neices or nephews, or exclude them?

  4. “taking 90% of Māori land in less than a century”

    Does this figure mean 10% of land remains in Maori hands?

    Was 90% of land “taken” from Maori or was it sold, freely sold, sold by chiefs, sold by iwi, sold by individual Maori, sold by multiple Maori, sold by Maori with no claim to that land, sold twice, coercively purchased, compulsorily purchased, confiscated, freely given to pakeha friends, freely given for schools, given under duress, given for protection as national parks, taken for public and military works, simply claimed by the crown. No doubt there was duplicity and great unfairness but it seems a stretch to say 90% of Maori land was “taken” as if Maori had no agency whatsoever.

    1. Not to lesson the impact of land confiscations but I always wonder the same thing when I hear that figure quoted as well.

  5. Problem for Ardern, Labour, Labour’s Maori Caucus, The Maori Party, Maori Leaders, National or Act, etc. cannot define what co-governace actually entails and that is the reason it has been kicked down the road.

    Ardern cannot make a speech defining the indefinable.

    Perhaps the biggest barrier is that there is no longer a purely defined Maori and Pakeha populace.

    We have a melting pot of brown tinted people who have a genetic make up from every race under the sun. No longer is it Maori versus Pakeha boomers. The New Zealand people have moved on from your simplistic race divided narrative.

    Many New Zealanders are “born of this land” and my grand and great grand children are various shades of brown due to Maori, Indian, Vietnamese, Chinese, African and European genetic influences.

    This racial genetic divide is a falsehood being engendered to divide New Zealander’s. Certainly not going to unite them as Aotearoan’s.

    In my time left I wont see an Aotearoa emerge where (to quote Martin Luther King)

    “”I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.””

    Because even today that world famous and ideological pure statement is being debased for racial purposes by his own children.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mlks-content-of-character-quote-inspires-debate/

    Seems like we simply cannot agree to be one people and as such there will never be co-governace or a vestige of what that entails. For co-governance must ensure it’s eventual own demise as the racial melting pot simmers to a buff coloured consistency.

    Will we ever achieve a colour blind society?

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