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  1. “The only conceivable Pathway To Government in 2017 for both Labour *and* The Greens lies squarely through New Zealand First”
    So the left are stuffed then. Winston, being a moderate tory, will only espouse coalition with Labour if he can be sure its left-ness is perceptible only through a microscope.

  2. Very interesting. I for one would welcome a Labour, Green, NZ First coalition. Together the parties policies are all better than individually.

    Winston’s got the Charisma and record to take National votes down and skill to u turn this country.
    Labour’s got the party faithful.
    Green has got the future growth.

    I hope they can play in the same sand box because another term of toxic and corrupt National policy or a National coalition will kill the country.

    1. Everything SAVE NZ and Curwen said is our wishes so we need to now build on this “partnership to un seat Nasty NATZ and banish them come next year.

  3. I just want a government that governs for New Zealanders, not corporations. I want free education, free health care, social housing, subsidised public transport, public owned utilities.
    If the Scandinavian countries can why cant we? Again.
    I don’t care which party heads the government. But it seems to be that the left are hell bent on remaining fractured for the benefit of …….who?

    1. Hear Hear !!!.

      There is a particular poster on the Daily Blog who regularly writes about the ‘Great Institutionalized Lie ‘ with passion. In a nutshell, – he’s right.

      We have far too many scoundrels and thieves in high places who are only interested in tailoring legislation designed solely for the purpose of siphoning off the wealth of the commons into their ( Panama Papers, anyone? ) offshore trusts and bank accounts.

      There is no reason AT ALL why we cannot have a similar system to the Scandinavian country’s. None whatsoever.

      Yet these thieves operate year after year with impunity – their audacity clearly evident to those watching that not only do they have the cheek to run for public office , but enact through our very own parliament laws designed to enable that ongoing public swindle of the commons purse.

      They are exactly the opposite of what is needed to pass the character, ethics and transparency test yet here they are again , the same old tired persona’s still arrogantly and obnoxiously seeking public office yet again the following election whilst continuing to preach their brain washing mantra to the public til saturation point – using our public broadcaster to boot.

      I’m with you on this. The plaintive cry of these scum that NZ cant afford these things is to be seen as a total crock when there is cash for a flag referendum no one ever wanted and cash enough to have tax cuts for the rich yet punitive taxation and low wages for the working populace and a gutted social service sector. Even more so with the impending further release of the Panama Papers.

      This country and its people have been deceitfully and royally shafted by these thieves for 32 years now – 1984 being the high tide mark heralding what was to come.

      Bill English once stated proudly that ”we should be glad we have a low wage economy as that encourages foreign investment ” ….

      REALLY ?

      If I was Bill English I would have hid my head in shame at my absolute and total incompetence as a finance minister to have been presiding over that portfolio and yet still possessing the colossal gormless mentality to issue a public statement such as that to the voting public – a voting public who have several hundred thousand workers who live below the poverty line , work longer hours than ever before and still cant afford the basic necessities in many cases to care for the needs of their family’s , – let alone buy a house one day.

      Is that the picture of a prosperous society, Bill ?

      Is that the picture of a brighter future , John?

      This is no time to be playing games anymore with this criminal element. This public should be demanding some serious inquiry’s into the conduct of these types of manipulators. And for those who would wish to have the position of leadership roles they should first approach it from the perspective of being a servant.

      Not a lord , not a boss – but that of an honest and humble servant.

    2. +200 from me.

      I am sick of my young diabetic friend going through hell trying to raise money to pay for his meds and having to beg and harass friends every week to do so.

      Its wrong to put anyone in this position no matter who they are.

    3. I like what you say Brigid.
      We need a Government that represents the people. All of the people. Not just the ones that pay the most, or scream the loudest.
      The only way to do it is leave the left and right behind.
      A coalition of the centre.
      Be gone, Andrew Little, begone John Key. Only people who will give of themselves for MP.

    4. You are on to it Bigid basic humanitarian requirements for the NZ population is what most people are really looking for.

      let the 1% percenters entertain themselves in Hawaii or the Mediterranean, just give basic New Zealanders basic, health, education, housing and public transport, is this asking too much?

  4. I am afraid that while there are policy areas that may represent some common grounds with the Greens, New Zealand First is on the whole not all that much a “progressive” party as many of us would see it.

    And therein lies the problem, the Greens have long positioned themselves on the progressive side of politics, despite of recent attempts to reach out to that so ambiguous if not mythical “centre” ground.

    Of course their leaders and MPs will have to be pragmatic, but a Labour, NZ First, Greens coalition would have to make so many internal compromises, it would not be able to make all that significant changes overall, I fear.

    The same may apply for a Labour – Greens coalition arrangement supported by NZ First.

    Although Winston may go on about the 1 percent, the corporate capitalists and so forth, he also has bizarre positions on international trade, for instance his endeavours to ignore sanctions that have been imposed on Russia (as a consequence of the Crimea and East Ukrainian conflict) by the EU, US and so forth. He repeatedly advocated for more dairy exports to Russia.

    Now some may rather side with Russia, but Putin is hardly a progressive one who believes in true democracy, freedom of speech and tolerance.

    Winston’s course seems a bit “adventurous” same as John Keys, the latter putting us in a permanent juggling position between the strategic interests of China and the US. Key and Nats love to trade more with China, but on the other hand want to stay loyal as de-facto allies of Australia and the US.

    With some policies you simply cannot have it both ways, certainly not all the times.

    On the other hand there is common ground on stopping overseas real estate buying, on stricter investment rules and some other matters.

    And then we have a rather socially conservative mindset within NZ First, where their spokesperson for social security seems to try and defend and promote boot camp style training camps for unemployed.

    I honestly cannot see enough common ground between the Greens and NZ First.

  5. A Labour/Greens/NZF coalition Government is the only alternative going forward to the 2017 Election otherwise it is another 3 years of Key/Joyce/English plus ACT/United Future?/Maori Party? God Help!!!

  6. If Labour, NZ First and Greens are able to openly demonstrate fairly soon they are able to work as a mature progressive collective for the benefit of NZ and Kiwis, burying hatchets, petty squabbles etc, then I might consider supporting a Red/Black/Green team next election. But to get the support, they are going to have to pull their fingers out and go for it fairly quickly!

    However until that becomes a reality, at this stage I’m still favouring Mana.

  7. MSARY A is correct as we all have now seen this Country being torn apart as never before!

    So NZ First/Labour?Greens all now seriously see a new urgency to bind together to save NZ, it is as simple as that.

    United we stand – Divided we fall is the new motto for 2017 folks.

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