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  1. Absolutely heart breaking what happened to children at Lake Alice, but worse, NZ police and lawyers did not investigate or prosecute properly, until one victim went to the UN.

    UN tells NZ to investigate Lake Alice torture allegations properly
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/01/un-tells-nz-to-investigate-lake-alice-torture-allegations-properly.html

    NZ lawyers got rich not paying out, victims got next to nothing.
    Treasury put aside 10 times amount of money Govt paid abused Lake Alice patients
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/treasury-put-aside-10-times-amount-of-money-govt-paid-abused-lake-alice-patients/UG6DK5S73RENBN5AHRL7PH5N4U/

    It is not justice to wait decades for acknowledgement of the torture and abuse for victims and small compensation too late for victims to meaningfully enjoy and attempt to recover from the abuse, with what is left of their lives.

    Neoliberal NZ! Where it’s all about abuse, cover ups and giving money to the powerful to avoid justice.

  2. With regards to current Oranga Tamariki, who knows what to do, apart from OT to get better qualified staff and defiantly better management that understand and are properly qualified with the complexities of child abuse so they can act appropriately and not fall back on bizarre race or neoliberal policies that abuse the child more.

    OT would be a very difficult job. Hopefully there are good case workers out there, but they clearly need much better managers and actually check properly on the children – especially ones that are vulnerable such as when their parents go to prison as they are probably already in a dysfunctional situation.

    Too many reports of OT staff who are paper pushers, liars or ones with a race/agenda axe to grind. Bad OT staff and incorrect reports, should not be protected in OT and by NZ courts instead of the children.

    Also too many examples of public calling in abuse, when there is none, while kids who are really suffering can’t get any OT to visit them properly.

    Another horrific preventable death. The average person should be able to realise that leaving a child in a cabin, with her prison mothers ‘friend”, and little OT supervision,’ is not a good idea. OT and the courts, are failing the children.

    Beaten, burnt and killed: Woman imprisoned after prolonged abuse, killing of 5yo Malachi Subecz
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/beaten-burnt-and-killed-woman-imprisoned-after-prolonged-abuse-killing-of-5yo-malachi-subecz/5THL3K4EMH6T755EDUX6ELYO2U/

  3. Vote appropriately in ’23 !
    Vote electorate for the candidate you regard as the most competent and representative of your principles, and Party who you believe has the best policies – and fuck the tribalism and identity politics. MMP was a hard battle to win and it is being abused by the self-interested political class. Fuk ’em and all who sail in them.

    Things are going to have to get worse before they can get better.

    This issue is a real shocker!! Unfortunately both Sepuloni and JA appear to have NFI except from a really comfy perspective looking on from above with their stubborn control-freakery and don’t spare the rod dispositions.

    IF this is really the issue that rattles your dags, then see above. It’d probably have to be party vote Green (unless MP and TOP come out with some sort of policy well before ’23).
    Otherwise – yea/nah ………. next.
    AND there’s still time for Labeen to review their intentions. (JUST!) But I doubt it will happen, in this space, going forward – they’re too committed to their fundamentals, so, ultimately it’ll likely be a hard landing for Labour at the next election as things stand. (What a fucking waste of the 2020 mandate. So be it)

  4. Ekshully, It wouldn’t be such a bad idea if someone like Efeso was to sit down with the Sep and have a ‘conversation’ with her – in this space, going forward.
    Meanwhile, if contributors to the TDB could come up with some spin that allows the architiks of this policy to save face, now would be a good time to give it.
    I guess one option would be to simply say the work agenda is so huge that it’ll have to come after the election – whereupon it can quickly be forgotten,

    1. OncwWasTim Unfortunately you have identified the main problem here, that government members are more concerned with saving themselves than with saving the children for whom they are meant to care. It takes a big person to admit they may have got wrong and are having a rethink. There are none. The shameful silence of the Nats on this issue enables Labour to behave disgracefully towards our children, making them just as bad. I may return to voting Green again because of their honourable stance in this matter.

  5. “OT admitted its “inadequate” work and “slow delivery” led to the project having to be shut down last August.” OK, so it was slow, but presumably that meant some support was still being provided? So surely it was shut down and now nothing will happen until the review is complete (over the past two years) and reccomendations proviced. Then further time to implement said recommendations. then more planning etc. So in the meantime no support has been provided to these extremely vulnerable people. Surely it would have been better to have kept the program running until improvements were made? This is the problem, services are seen as an academic exercise without regard to the fact that there are people relying on them. Given the people planning and implementing, you can only think they are over qualified compared to their intellectual capacity.

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