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  1. Well said Bomber. NZ Police retain a violent, macho, bent culture. Anyone who did not grow up Sunday school knows this. But, as the posts says, too many NZers do realise, and look the other way hoping that sucking up to the Police will somehow protect them.

    As a person who has always exercised their democratic freedoms of speech, assembly and association, many is the time I have been arrested on marches, vigils, rallies etc. and then released without charge. Burglary? hahahaha, put up a union picket outside an employers premises and the cops are there in 10min.

    Hundreds of cops per year are disgraced, and some very quietly end up before the courts. Evidence tampering, lifting drugs & property from storage, hitting on imprisoned peoples partners, accessing Police intel for personal reasons, bullying, stalking are some of the cases that have popped up from time to time and quickly disappear from media scrutiny. One lives over the road from me, forced into early retirement because he leaned on a prosecutor to drop an assault charge for the son of his business partner. He got pinged more because of running a business concurrently with serving, and he had previous interview tampering, let off by IPCA. Many of these guys think it is ok–that is how degraded Police culture is. I actually talk to him and he is certainly reflecting on life now.

    Tasers were meant to be a lethal force alternative, but cops typically use them as compliance and punishment devices! Digital Surveillance tech also shows just how little respect for the law and public consultation they have.

    Yeah, yeah–Police have to deal with the “mad, sad & bad” and clean up gruesome crash scenes etc. very touching, (though some of their work could be done by paramedics, fully staffed mental health workers and search and rescue etc) but they need to accountable and mean it if they want wide support.

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  3. Police lie and deceive every day in our courts.
    The courts largely pretend it’s not happening, they are equally culpable.

  4. Didnt we have this convo earlier this year? 3 yrs training for Uk police officers and 16? or 28? week training in NZ. Lower entry standards.

    Yes the culture sucks (No thanks to the IPCC) but it comes down to the need to invest in a quality police force. Getting the right people, training them well and ensuring the right level of resourcing and the right culture.

  5. So why did this man not give his name and adress ?
    This morning in Franktown a dairy worker lost 2 fingers in a attack by 4 robbers with matchets .Who will be chasing these people .Who will be dealing with gang members and the everyday yob out to make a name for himself the drunks and mental patients let out too early . Who will deal with abuse and not be able to do anything about it because society has taken away their authority by weak sentences passed on affenders.
    As with all groups there are some bad apples but most are good people trying to do a hard job.
    I am old white and lawabiding so perhaps my eyes are rose tinted but I know without a good police force life would be alot worse for many especially the vunerable

  6. While I agree with the article I don’t like his chances of getting a fair jury. It is just the power corrupts principle in action and most people prefer to look away than get involved.

  7. “Who will be dealing with… mental patients let out too early? ”

    Unfortunately cops who will kill them with a shoot to kill policy or taser till dead or just sit on them until they asphixiate.

  8. Bomber don’t make this a racist issue- it’s a powerist issue (as in spending power) imho. The bit about the dogs really got to me though that’s just plain cruel.

  9. Martyn, I presume it was a spelling prompt that provided “giving Police total desecration” instead of “total discretion”.
    Although sometimes desecration is more appropriate for the result of their actions.

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