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  1. So basically if the Labour press harder, give NZFirst an Air Comabat force training squadron of 6 surplus U.S. f16’s and give the Greens a Benifit increase or two and legalise the marijuanas. National might purge some crazies? sounds like a double win for left leaning voters to me.

      1. Climate change should have been enough for Labour to go hard out. Now they’ve got no excuse. We were promised a government that was ready to go. Now go.

  2. Are you perhaps not reading too much into this, are we not perhaps dealing with endless nasty minded opportunists, all out there to gain some ground and posts and money?

    Lusk is a noble primitive hunter and gatherer type of person, a nasty piece of work, but that is just what many Nats love. Sadly a vanity driven, self entitled prick like Ross put the dagger into their backs, because he expected to be rewarded for his great manipulative skills, also at conning people into making donations.

    It was HIM who got the Chinese to donate so much money, Bridges would have been too dumb and incompetent, and disconnected to get so much out of wealthy Chinese in Botany and so.

    So Jami Lee turned the table against his master, portraying it like it was Bridges getting the donation organised, while he was doing it himself. Jami Lee Ross has now been exposed as the greatest manipulator there is in NZ politics, and he is digging his own grave.

    One has to worry about his well being, and especially that of his cheated wife, and so on, there could be very serious consequences, I fear, very serious ones, let us hope they do not crack up totally and do some self harm or so.

    1. Marc, you may be over-estimating Ross’s skills here in thinking that the Chinese gentlemen concerned would not have donated but for Jami-Lee Ross. They’re quite keen givers.

      Implying that Simon Lusk is a noble sort of primitive hunter is way off beam too. Read “Dirty Politics”. See for yourself, in their own written words, how these prime manipulators hope to get far-right in control of NZ politics for the next 20 years. Their own words. It’s all long term strategy.Read what turns Simon Lusk on.

      I don’t know what current MP’s apart from Ross, Mark Mitchell and Louise Upston, paid Lusk to help get them into power, but immersion in character assassination, and negativity, and playing dirty, and the maintaining of on-going links with Lusk – friend of Cameron Slater and other interesting people -could be a challenge to even mentally healthy people. They could all have blistered brains by now. Add in ‘proclaimed Christian’ and you’ve got a putrid potion.

      Many of the protagonists in “Dirty Politics” appear to be obsessive nutters. They sound like my brother’s comics except this is real life. Sure, there are nasty little opportunists in Parliament, and if they want to feather their own nests, well, that’s what happens, but the greedy are an insidious bunch who see power as an end in itself, think that the end justifies the means, and see everybody else as tools and fools.

      How about reading the book and seeing what they say about themselves and each other ? Keep a bowl handy in case you need to puke – or just sit in the gutter.

    2. Lusk is a hunter wanna be but wouldn’t find his way past the paddock gate.
      General derision of hunters noted though marc. A recurring theme in the greens and all inherently superior identity politicians.

  3. What a complete mess of a post that is. Why don’t you think like an adult for 5 minutes.

    TOP? Why are you even wasting zeros and ones on that non entity?

    And as for describing Edwards as a political guru – you have truly lost it there. He’s a National plant.

    1. I tried to think like an adult for 5 minutes. That made me burst out laughing at a mindset which accepts the mechanics and logistics of getting Edwards into the position of being a National plant.

    2. What’s bothering you muttonbird?
      You seem cranky, the world isn’t all bad, outside here the sun is shining, spring is springing.
      It’s unlikely any of us will solve the worlds problems in the comment section of political blogs..

  4. Heavy waters indeed,… but then , going by recent past events it seems likely that this is the ploy… The Hollow Men , Dirty Politics…

    Its all starting to ring true.

    But its not just backed by the politicians themselves…there are powerful lobby groups , – and some of a geopolitical nature involved,… that’s how serious this is getting.

    National must be kept out at all costs if we want to have a sovereign nation where we the people determine our own futures..

  5. “Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.”
    George Bernard Shaw

  6. I really don’t know if anything that is happening to National at this time is particularly scientific. I see the Godfather of this vintage of the National Party, John Key, is now being dragged into it with further email threats. That is fucking karma!

    And I do not think for one moment that TOP is going to do any better than any other arrogant millionaires vanity project we have seen, especially since the money and its wealthy creator is no longer there.

    Ross is the spawn of a particularly corrupt form of politics in this country, one where the leader of the National Party/PM himself had that disgraceful political smear machine operating from his office. I can recall the words to the effect from Key, goading Labour across the floor in parliament about having a drawer full of dirt on them, that is before we all learnt of their dirty politics machine.

    The infection that Key and his millionaire ilk were to politics in this country did permanent damage and Ross is simply a natural byproduct of that way of thinking.

    Did the National Party never once stop to think that that this virulent strategy of dishonesty and moral and ethical bankruptcy they visited upon us, so entrenched in their lust to be winners, would not end like this at some point?

    Jami Lee Ross, Todd Barclay, Aaron Gilmore and lord knows who else from this revolting political entity were the new standard bearers for the Key era.

    The real suprise is it has taken this long for the chickens to start coming home to roost.

  7. An excellent analysis Martyn, and I fear Judith Collins’s hand in all this runs deeper than has been realised. What is shocking is that the MDM hasn’t picked up on this.

  8. I watch Jami-Lee Ross’s radio interview and when he kept talking about how the ‘rules of politics have changed and personal stuff is on the table now’ I realised that it was pure Lusk.

    It’s not certain yet that politics has in fact changed but Lusk is certainly doing his best to make it happen.

    Our choice is to join in the hate fest or to make peace with people on the right. We should be looking to unite with those on the right to get rid of Lusk and his crew in the same way we would if Aliens were looking to take over the planet.

    After that we can go back to arguing about left v right but right now there’s more important things to think about.

  9. This isn’t news its PR in favour of Bridges pitched as news, but it is biased as ‘F’ in every direction. This is just Nazi propaganda can’t believe a word of it. They’re all shame full none of them should have the chance to run the country.

  10. National know that need allies to win 51% and two minor electorate based parties using MMP coat-tailing is the best way to do that.

    Let’s unpick this a little:
    * To win 51% of the seats doesn’t require winning 51% of the vote. In the 2014 election, the Nat/Maori/Act/UF coalition won a total of 49.27% of the party votes at the ballot box. So-called “wasted votes” boosted that 49.2% at the ballot to 52.6% of seats in the House.
    In short, wasted votes are a potential factor. If the Greens or NZF dipped below 5% that could be 5 or 6 seats that get reallocated.
    * Two minor electorate based parties using MMP coat-tailing.
    These electorate parties are “adjunct parties” i.e. a party whose policies are very close to another but technically a separate party for the purpose of manipulating the election result. Electorate-based (adjunct) parties can work in two ways.
    One is via coat-tailing (Maori party in 2014) where the threshold is achieved by winning an electorate seat and any party vote over about 1.3% will bring in more MPs (once again reallocated wasted votes could ring in an extra seat).
    The other is by saving party votes within an electorate. With 120 seats, each seat should represent 0.83% of the party vote. If you can get a seat via an electorate seat and not cannibalise your party vote that’s an advantage (Peter Dunne/UF 2014 – 0.22% of party vote).

    With margins now paper thin between what comprises a workable coalition and opposition, every seat you can finagle whatever way counts.
    Not only do we need to drop the coat-tail provision but an electorate seat should require at least 0.75% of party vote to prevent the Dunne scenario. As for re-allocated wasted votes – that’s a travesty that needs to be cleaned up immediately.

  11. “wasted votes” boosted that 49.2% at the ballot to 52.6% of seats in the House.’

    shocking. what is happening to stop this?

    1. Yes it is shocking.
      At present nothing is happening to stop this – it’s baked into the version of MMP we are using.
      Thousands of people each election vote for a party and if that party doesn’t meet the threshold then their vote gets reallocated to parties that meet the threshold. Anywhere else it’d be called vote rigging.
      I’ve raised this with the Electoral Commission and they deny that wasted votes get redistributed. On a technicality they don’t get directly re-allocated in the Sainte-Lague method – but in actuality that is what happens in effect.
      I’m doing a bunch of research at present and looking to start a campaign to sort this out. Won’t be easy as the main parties like the status quo that they benefit from.

  12. Wow this really is a plot so cunning you could definitely pin a tail on it and call it a weasel. So does JLR’s short spell in the hospital fit into the strategy too? They certainly are playing a long game and going for broke! But I believe it could be within the realms of possibility… Operators operating and all that, explains why JLR was taping and trying to entrap his boss whilst still on the inners so to speak. However the selling of list spots rather undoes your good opinion of Bridges no matter how much of a nice guy he is out of public. The Nats def need to get another support party in the wings for next election…keep writing as the plot thickens and unfolds very good reading and it just might play out like you say.. But woe is me how cynical if it be true and along the continuum of the Saudi playbook and look where that ended. Or…Whale oil:Breitbart, Lusk:Steve Bannon, JLR: Trump?

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