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  1. The future, must be a covid free New Zealand.

    The only way to stop the virus now is a full Level 4 Lockdown.

    As seems likely, the point source of the outbreak was packaging on frozen goods brought in to New Zealand by a frozen goods importer.

    If this is the case, the implication for New Zealand’s frozen food export industry is dire.

    With massive job losses in this industry, and massive bankruptcies of farms and other producers.

    The option is protect public health, and damage the economy.

    The other option, is damage public health, and damage the economy.

    Will the Prime Miinister call it?

    Winston Churchill promised the British people, Blood, sweat, toil and tears and then delivered on his promise.

    Yet Churchill is the most popular Prime Minister and Britain of all time.

    This is Prime Minister Ardern’s Churchillian moment, will she step, or step back?

  2. Your comments are rubbish. The idea of bring the virus in on frozen goods has been counted out. We cannot go to level 4 if time there is a case . We need to improve testing and tracing and wearing face masks . The government is arid to go hard on the public as it does not fit with her saint like style. Some of the front line workers at the border have never been tested despite assurances .
    Churchill was voted out of office as soon as the war finished . HI story has been kind to him and his image but when I was growing up in the 50s he was not popular with many .

    1. WHO announced that the mortality rate for COVID is currently around 0.60%. Or a tad over 1 in every 200 people – or – 37 people for every 6,700. That’s actually very high for a disease that readily and easily transmits through the air.

      1. Sam the death rate is only that. It does not give an indication of numbers who contract covid19 and end up with a life long damaged or badly compromised health.

        Cut NZ off from the infection source and reorganise the economy on a different basis.
        As long as we continue with globalism then pandemics will keep occurring.

        1. It is most often transmitted through liquid droplets through the air, which is why masks have been so effective in New York and why nations that didn’t mandate masks have been spiking. I can understand scepticism in a dearth of information, but we’ve seen New York City prove mask efficacy.

          Yknow what I mean? cut what off? your arm? lol, I got a kitchen knife if you need one.

          1. Globalisation means sharing diseases unless barriers are solidly in place.

            Less globalisation would have many benefits for NZ but would change our lifestyle and many would say for the better. “Mother Earth” would benefit and we see evidence of that just in the short time since the pandemic started.

            Masks make good sense in spite of them being politicised by rednecks.

          2. Nah, we can buy unassembled goods and do 100% of the assembly and packaging in NZ Ikea style while making adjustments to new corona conditions. This shit ain’t hard.

        2. John, are you proposing to completely and permanently close the borders of Aotearoa? Are you prepared to immediately and permanently transition to a life that looks like something out of a McGillicuddy Serious manifesto?

          This would mean no:
          * computers (or anything that depends on them): it takes decades of development to set up a silicon chip industry from scratch, even with imports of outside experts and tools
          * coffee: it can’t grow here in the volumes we currently consume
          * even underwear: if anyone can point me to a local company making underwear, you’ve made a sale. Rebuilding a local grud production industry needs to happen, but will take years.

    2. The future stalls here.

      “Churchill was voted out of office as soon as the war finished….

      ….in the 50s he was not popular with many”

      Churchilll couldn’t have cared less about popularity, or re-election. All Churchill cared about was victory….

      “You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be….”
      Winston Churchill

      We need leadership like this now.

      The question that will be answered tonight at 5:30 is this:

      Will the government stick with elimination (victory), as their aim, or change to suppression, (appeasement), as their aim?

    3. “Your comments are rubbish. The idea of bring the virus in on frozen goods has been counted out….”
      Trevor Sennitt

      Hi Trevor, this possibility has not been ruled out.

      Health Minister Chris Hipkins has poured cold water over Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters’ claim the Covid-19 cases came from a border breach.

      Hipkins said this morning there was “no evidence” to support Peters’ allegations.

      Peters yesterday told Australian Patricia Karvelas of Australia’s ABC 24 News he had “inside information” there’d been a breach of the quarantine system.
      NZ Herald
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12356481

      If there wasn’t a breach in the border, then how the hell did it get in?

      New Zealand coronavirus outbreak ‘could have been imported via food packaging’, authorities say as Auckland re-enters lockdown

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/new-zealand-coronavirus-outbreak-could-have-been-imported-via-food-packaging-authorities-say-as-auckland-re-enters-lockdown/ar-BB17QxKD?fbclid=IwAR0t3QNDJfkSTeZ0TxMacvsEtevczdDKp9VVt5La047wcEHVHc9UEVBXcec

      (So much for being discounted).

      The future starts, (or stalls), here

  3. I’d like to see in the headline caption open hands and hand-tohand clasping rather than raised fists. The strong determination of people to gain a decent life for all with sharing and mutual commitment is what will enable this, clenched fists as symbols of the struggle are passe’.

  4. The future stalls here.

    Even though the government has not achieved its avowed aim to trace the cause of the community transmission to its the source, the government will bow to the pressure from the right not to go to a level 4 lockdown.

    Instead the government will most likely keep the country at Level 3 partial lockdown.

    The result; within a few weeks NZ will resemble the US, or Victoria.

    1. Let’s not catastrophize Pat. Blaming the right for this decision is a conspiracy theory that gives them credit they don’t deserve. If Bloomfield and his team said level 4 was necessary, Cabinet would have actioned it. If they start to find cases they can’t trace back to the cluster within a few days, Bloomfield will give the level 4 advice, and Cabinet will action it. In the meantime, keep calm and …

  5. The future stalls here

    “We will not need zero cases to go down a level” Prime Minister Ardern

    With this statement the government moves their aim from elimination to suppression.

  6. Kia ora,

    Thank you very much for the summary of the important ‘Alternative Aotearoa’ conference.

    Certainly, this seminar was one of the most emancipatory political events of the past weeks and months, leading the way for urgently needed social and ecological change in New Zealand / Aotearoa.

    Well done.

    From my point of view, further institutionalization of the process is the next milestone to be achieved.

    Laura O’Connell Rapira, the Director of Action Station, made some very valid practical suggestions on how to proceed, possibly through:

    1. A common agenda.
    2. A shared measurement system.
    3. Mutually re-enforcing activities.
    4. Continuous communication
    5. Backbone support organization.

    Horizontal and vertical organization, yes.

    Self-empowerment on burning social and ecological problems that are by-passed by the mainstream parties in the national parliament.

    Rolling back neo-liberalism.

    Yes. Great.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGN7PVsrAUM
    Playing for Change Band | Himno de mi corazon

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