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  1. The truly extreme actions will be carried out by Governments, not citizens. Prepare for the storm.

  2. The point of these protests, not that these protesters most likely realize this, is to denigrate the protest movement itself. This type of protest is a worldwide phenomenon, and this level of reach does not come from little ole you and me. Just like protest movements can be infiltrated by bad actors, then as far as I’m concerned, this type of protest comes out of the billionaire playbook of weakening any type of push back against billionaire class actions/initiatives.

    As for climate change, I wish that things were so good with the world that climate change is all we had to worry about, but alas with new variants floating in the wind, a tanking global economy, a war in Europe and threats of a war breaking out in our neck of the woods, then well, we’ve all got other issues to worry about. Pity, because we need to be aware of potential polices coming down the pike in the name of climate change. Don’t the ruling class just love calamity huh!

  3. “The Climate Protestors blocking Wellington Motorways are legends and true heroes.”

    I would like to defer.

    And I should know I have led a powerful protest campaign to shut down a coal mine and won.

    Without taking the public with them these protesters will achieve nothing, except hurt the protest movement.

    https://aucklandclimateaction.org/2013/08/26/we-will-stop-your-mine/

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/9127196/Protest-signs-stay-put-as-mine-opponents-challenge-council-order

    Adventurist actions that piss off working people going about their daily business are not going to win over anyone. The only result will be to give the state more excuse to crackdowns on the legitimate protest movement.

    1. Well said Pat the problem will not be solved by piss ing people off . It will be no good working in isolation and we need to follow the big polutors they will not follow us .

    2. @Pat do we need to acknowledge the class prejudice in this?

      No one in this country wants to talk about class but so much of our protest and culture wars are breaking down along class lines: What you’re describing is middle class people protesting in way that pisses off the working class and gives the establishment the opportunity to drive a wedge between the two groups and prevent progress on climate change.

      Is it true that the middle class have so internalised the need to protect the owner class above them that they can’t even see the problem with their actions here?

      Imagine if they joined with the working class and blocked the roads around parliament – nothing would scare the powers-that-be more than the middle class and working class joining together on this issue.

  4. NZs contribution to global induced climate change is less than 1 percent.
    If you want to make meaningful change glueing yourself to roads and stopping traffic is not going to cut it.
    Transport is 14 percent of the less than our 1 percent.
    Anything we do will have no impact.
    It is the very meaning of virtue signalling.
    Large populous developing countries which produce the lions share should be financed and encourage to adopt green/nuclear technology.
    Do you want to actually solve the problem or just feel virtuous?

    1. “NZs contribution to global induced climate change is less than 1 percent.”

      – So? Are you going to make an argument based upon that statement?
      Or, are you going to leave it there like a turd hoping that you can engender some sort of innuendo from it and/or encourage a logical fallacy.

      “Large populous developing countries which produce the lions share should be financed and encourage to adopt green/nuclear technology.”

      – Agreed, as also should small low population countries. A single passenger isn’t entitled to a free ride on the bus just because the bus is full and he/she is outnumbered.

      1. Look the reality is no NZ politician or citizen can stop climate change. If NZ sank into the ocean tomorrow climate change would continue without us because the vast bulk of emissions are generated off shore, not in this country.
        Akin to closing a window when the roof is missing, anything we do will have no effect.
        If we are to survive this it will be because we adapt not ruin our economy by trying to tilt at windmills.

  5. Martyn you really should keep taking the tablets
    Methane has 25% of the effect of CO2, food producers are specifically exempted from the Paris Agreement, and new IPCC data has reduced the possible temperature rises to less than 2 degrees.
    Why not worry about real problems of uneducated children, rising crime, child poverty and inflation that we can do something about rather than watch the China, India and Indonesia making the sensible decision to feed, shelter, provide power for their own people and ignore our pear clutching

  6. Disappointing. I was hoping the actions in Kilbirnie might have resulted in more “removal by the hair” action like that seen in Europe not so long ago. Never mind, I’m sure continued protests of this type will wind up the general public enough that my wishes will be granted.

    1. Removal by hair. Are you a National party supporter because Luxon has no hair? He wouldn’t be protesting about such things and in that way anyway.

  7. The trouble with pure minded protesters is that they find they have to wear blinkers to keep their minds unpolluted by the uncaring and the troubles increasingly ballooning partly by climate change, for many poorer people. They may be willing to suffer harm to themselves but cut into the system

    Love thy neighbour, even if you don’t love yourself. We must try or we are all a waste of time and resources and the earth will deal with us and we won’t have a helpful or comforting hand as it happens.

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