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  1. Apart from the personnel difference we were sovereign country in those days. We are no more.
    In a world where commerce is a global operation our government does not have the authority to usher in genuine change.
    The western nations have passed on their responsibility to manage the welfare of their people to the global government. But there is no global government. So governance responsibility resolves to those who run global commerce.
    Social justice is not a part of the objectives of commerce.
    Jacinda has a much more comprehensive revolution to implement than Kirk had.And she has given no indication that she understands what has to be done.
    D J S

    1. I don’t think so. I think a government could easily tax and spend rather than borrow and spend. We know what borrow and spend does, it inflates every speculative instrument since Muldoon.

      1. The western world is saturated with debt. Some countries it’s more public (government debt) , but all have huge private debt. NZ has one of the largest private debt per capita in the world.
        Taxing the rich is fine, they should pay more tax,(income tax not CGT), but if this is done without controlling the banking system (the control of which is not in government hands) so as to limit or reduce govt debt, private debt will increase instead. It’s like whipping a dead horse.
        D J S

        1. Yeah but eventually the horse realizes that the energy it is expending won’t reach the destination because the destination never comes.

          This is where society is at the moment. Politicians since Ruthenasia have been claiming that tightening the belt will eventually trickle down into some sort of benefit to society. 40 years later we are still waiting on that delivery.

          This is where we are globally with the polarization between left and right. It doesn’t matter what it is, it could be a movie or a game or some hate speech violation, there’s always some left / right group that’s at that point of giving up, they just don’t give a fuck.

          So clearly the wealthy establishment requires saving from themselves. And again this is an argument for tax and spend. It’s the only way.

      2. Sam, please read up about MMT. Spending is not dependent on taxation, and never was. But then, this is just one more failing of this neoliberal Government of St. Jacinda of the Photoshoot.

        1. There are certain things a government can borrow to fund. Operational spending isn’t one. That you would tax and spend.

  2. It is good to see you acknowledge Norman Kirk. I was living overseas when he was PM, and only read his biography a couple of years ago.

    Housing of course was an issue he would have been acutely aware of, having built his own home at Kiapoi. He made the concrete bricks himself, and sunk his own well to get water for the mix. I think he was working in ChCh at the time, and biking back and forth from Kiapoi, a very long bike ride.

    In contrast I have just read David Lange’s autobiography, and, however clever he was in front of the cameras – and he analyses this and its requirements – it was a disappointing read, from an acutely self-aware man. Lange makes a retrospective dig at a minor scenario with his first wife earlier in their relationship, and in my book, a gentleman doesn’t do this, especially when he has dumped her.

    Ardern may not have the depth of a Kirk, but she is the only Labour politician with the ability to lead the party, and she seems to have solid party support, whereas National have no-one similar, and it looks as if
    they may be looking at shipping in a mate of John Key, and any mate of Key is not necessarily a mate of the people of New Zealand – and people is what government should be about. Kirk comes across as a friend of the people, which is what we need.

    1. Precisely. The people of NZ will see Luxon as nothing more than a mate of JK’s, a corporate fat cat who is only in it for the money. Jacinda lives in a very modest house in a middle-of-the-road suburb of Auckland – not in Hernia Bay, Parasite Drive or McMansion Rd and isn’t a corporate in any sense of the word.

  3. I recently watched one of the television appearances of Norman Kirk on NZonScreen, being interviewed by David Frost a few months after his election as Prime Minister.

    Very worth the watch. Particularly given the notable lack of political media training, and the gravitas and thought he gives to answering questions, as well as his clear distinction towards not answering questions when appropriate and forgoing any glibness or redirection. Also, no … wait and see what we have planned…

  4. honestly any number of The Daily Blog readers could do a better job that the conservative risk averse Labour Caucus members–bring Minto and Treen in, and get Auckland Action Against Poverty to oversee the retirement of WINZ/MSD I say!

    but at least Labour have committed to repealing the State Sector Act, so if they get a second term, the pressure should be put on them to be more “Kirk like” and make some needed brisk decisions

    1. “Diary of the Kirk years” by his Private Secretary Margaret Hayward sheds some light on Big Norm’s death. It was a rather lonely one at the Home of Compassion Hospital, Island Bay in Wellington.

      He was a very sick man, but no doubt modern medicine could have done more for him. Hayward is in no doubt that he was neglected and not given the best possible treatment or advice.

      Whether that was influenced by the likes of the CIA is hard to prove, and will likely never be known. Labour stalwart Bob Harvey always felt there was 5 Eyes type involvement in Kirk’s early death like the Gough Whitlam sacking in Australia.

  5. The changes needed are going to take some time we can moan as much as we like but we need to come up with solutions.

  6. Excellent article , Chris Trotter.

    It had to be said.

    And thank you for all those reminders of Kirk’s govt and what they just got on and did.

    It confirms all the suspicions that many have since 1984 and even earlier… the Third Labour govt and the neo liberal sham we’ve since those days.

    Thank you.

    No wonder John Clarke and the smarter ones flew the ditch.

  7. Honest, open, organisations are needed.
    The “professions” lawyers, accountants, doctors, surgeons are all self governing for their own behaviour.

    They need to be accountable to an outside independent agency for their behaviour.

    Why? Because they have huge ideological and monetary value to political parties.

    Kirk blew them away.

    Now our party pollies are too scared of scaring an imaginary “middle class”.

    We have (illogically) a neo liberal economy which has brought huge wealth to a minuscule number of people and made thousands homeless.

    What is Simon Bridges et al going to do about that?

  8. Gee perhaps its just me but I can’t see any similarity whatsoever and that’s from someone who grew up in the 70’s. For example I can’t imagine the Kirk government embaracing the CP-TPPA or allowing the state of healthcare, homelessness, etc to continue as it is.

  9. The Censor did not approve of my comments criticising Jacinda and her lot, I note yet again.

    1. Have you not learned that darling Jacinda cannot be criticized yet? She may achieve stuff all, but she’s popular apparently.

      1. I don’t care what the brain washed, superficial and ignorant ‘majority’ thinks, I say what I want.

  10. Agreed that transformation requires utter commitment, perhaps to the point of political self sacrifice (kamikaze socialism/high risk-high return; if it means serving only one term so be it). I reckon Jacindas three big moves in first 100 could have been 1. Pulling our troops out of all these phony wars on terror then placing a full page ad in the Herald stating that the world has been conned by the military industrial complex, 2. Make education free again (MEFA). Get the military industrial complex, big business, the one percenters, bankers, the royals, and the wealthy with more than two homes to pay for it (CGT mofos). 3. Recognise the likes of the Palestinian state and illegal occupation/theft of their lands. Ridicule then monitor any nutjobs who suggest that support for Palestinian human and legal rights is antisemitic. Occasionally post on social media two photos side by side of Nazi razor wire fences and Israeli razor wire fences; repeat until Israel pulls their head in.

  11. Pre roger douglas et al NZer’s owned NZ.
    NZ is now just an INTERNATIONAL trade slut, much to the joy of Wall Street traders owned by any one the tax payers union.

  12. The equivalent moves by Jacinda would have been to withdraw New Zealand from the Trans-Pacific Partnership; order an immediate halt to all oil and gas exploration; and repatriate immediately all New Zealand military personnel serving in Afghanistan and Iraq.”

    Add to that nationalising the electricity industry, reintroducing the equivalent of the state advance scheme and raising benefit levels based on a reversal of the 1991 cuts.

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