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    1. It’s a diversion from getting woke and going broke. American media have got it bad. The business model is to piss everyone off, and keep them pissed off so they stay engaged and thus tuned into the ratings war.

  1. The impeachment is part of the coup attempt that the Dems and the Establishment have been waging against Trump ever since he was elected.

    The Ukraine furphy is the stalking horse; the Russia-interference fiction was to be the original driver for impeachment, but was abandoned when it was found to have so many holes, peas could be shot through it.

  2. In my view the US was never a proper democracy but then most are not. Its no better here in NZ or Australia. As to this impeachment business they have tried to impeach most if not all the Republican Presidents that ever took office. The Russian narrative is in my well informed opinion a farce. The real reason is Trump was never the establishments choice and his walking away from corporate stoogery like the TPPA was and is seem as unacceptable. Not to mention his limiting involvement in existing and new wars.

  3. Trumps true purpose is as a useful idiot to give the GOP plausible deniability. He plays the maverick, not interested and indeed deliberately rebellious toward the republican establishment. His true purpose is to delay or reverse the inevitable demographic decline of the GOP. Up till the last election, much was made of the demographic shift in many states toward a much large latino population. It was estimated that within a short space of time it may not be possible for the Republicans to win elections based on this changing demographic. Voila!, Trump suddenly appears on the scene. You may have noticed that out of all the static, the crackdown on latino immigration is the best planned and organised policy the Trump government is running. The wall is not so much physical as it is an unwelcoming environment to dissuade future migrants from making the journey. Having kept at arms length the GOP can say, it wasn’t us, and then continue the same policies. The GOP however may at this point be wondering if they can now fit the genie back in the bottle.

    1. Alan: “Trumps true purpose is as a useful idiot to give the GOP plausible deniability.”

      Were that so, it’d be a post facto rationalisation.

      In this household, we followed closely the GOP primaries. The senior figures in the GOP would have chewed off their own hands if it could have stopped Trump getting the nomination; he was the very last person they wanted. Unfortunately, as you’ll recall, a line of preferred candidates fell at the hurdle of getting enough votes: the membership wanted Trump, and that was that. The GOP establishment couldn’t gainsay the members without causing a schism in the party, from which it might never have recovered.

      However. The GOP will most likely vote against his impeachment; they control the senate. And they won’t allow one of their own to be impeached – on spurious grounds, as it happens – even if he wasn’t their choice in the first instance.

  4. Despite the many testimonies revealing that Trump blackmailed Ukraine to investigate the Bidens, the Democrats will not win the vote for impeachment in a Senate packed with Republicans. It’s not a farce, just follows the dictum ‘stupidity rules’, except for Trump’s lead in the non involvement in TPPA & wars, that Sean notes!

    1. Janio: “Despite the many testimonies revealing that Trump blackmailed Ukraine to investigate the Bidens…”

      Be careful about accepting uncritically what’s reported by the msm. Biden is as crooked as a donkey’s hind leg. See this for what’s actually been going on:

      https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/11/a-timeline-of-joe-bidens-intervention-against-the-prosecutor-general-of-ukraine.html

      A member of this household hopes that Biden will win the presidency, the reason being that, in their view, the US citizens deserve him. God help them all – and possibly the rest of us – if Biden were to win; it looks to me as if, as well as being crooked, he has the Reagan problem.

      Doubtless most of you weren’t born, or are too young to remember, when Reagan was president; but I was an adult. Rumours about his failing mental competency began circulating, as I recall, by the end of his first term or early in his second term. I remember hearing a discussion between somebody on RNZ and the then political corespondent from Washington; they reported that WH staff had a Plan B, which they intended to put into effect if Reagan was confused and unable to remember the names of his officials for more than a few days consecutively. That plan involved taking over and delegating his presidential responsibilities and duties. Fortunately for him, it’d happen sporadically only, at least in the early years, so his staff didn’t need to put their plan into operation – as far as I know.

      By the looks of it, Biden is already in the early stages of dementia. Or something….

  5. I think that the whole Democrat establishment is deeply corrupt. As the receptacle of politically disinterested and wilfully ignorant voters it has been the obvious vehicle for undeclared policies by a hierarchy totally cynical and dismissive of the actual interests of those very voters; just like our 1980’s Labour government . The public figures within it are the servants of big business moreso than the traditional assumption of the Republicans serving that clientele . Just as the National party here in the 80’s was of a distinctly, even radically socialist persuasion as compared with any now.
    The reward for serving the business elite is not adequately provided by the remuneration of an MP , or the doubtful kudos of holding office. It’s provided by a system of graft that the Democrats have been donkey deep in for decades . Trump is an outsider , doesn’t know the rules, and has undertaken to drain the swamp. Eventually he might just do that. The Democrats are shit scared that he will succeed and they are abandoning all caution in a desperate attempt to get rid of him before the shit hits the fan in a big way. So much so that they are destroying their credibility as a rational political organisation. They must know that if they don’t get rid of him now it will be too late. They are forsaking any chance of winning the next presidential in the hope of getting rid of Trump. Pence or Pompeo or any of the grotesque Republican possibilities to replace him is OK. Anything but Trump, even if it’s for the next 9 years.
    That’s what I think anyway.
    D J S

      1. We must get our news from the same outlets D’Esterre. To wit reference to mono alabama. for instance.
        Cheers D J S

        1. David Stone: “We must get our news from the same outlets…”

          I’d say so. Since neither of us parrots the msm line. Moon of Alabama; Consortiumnews; the Off-Guardian; RT. And so on….

          A youngish relative continues to be a useful source of information from various other websites.

  6. Truth has been the victim since before Trump was elected. Democracy requires truth, effort to uncover and report truth. That is not available from the media. They are complicit with multiple falsehoods against Trump (pretty dumb really when reporting the truth about him offers easier wins).

    Democracy also requires effort and involvement by the people to keep at bay the power of the plutocrats and deep state. Our candidates and the rule of law, not theirs. That’s why the Democrat machine attacks Sanders and Gabbard.

    Finally democracy requires the ability to allow expression of alternate opinions, and to allow common ground. This takes effort. Wokesters mirroring the alt-Right, showing displays of extreme intolerance is lazy and leads to authoritarianism. Demands for political correctness stifle debate and freedom of opinion. Active democracy requires openness, even when it is offensive.

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