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  1. Sole, kefe.

    But those are great questions. The reality is the more time Kris Faafoi has to manoeuvre the more he becomes rotten with power. Power taxes people, we’ve all seen the before and after photos of Obama. Just rotten.

    Asides from human trafficking there are syndicates taking advantage of a coordinated effort to sideline regulators. I just don’t believe for a second that anyone of those regulators don’t want to advance their careers on the back of silencing the question of human trafficking kiwi style.

    China shouldn’t even come into it. If Bejing becomes uncooperative and pushes sanctions against New Zealand then we can just cut ties with them and enforce human rights.

    Although the power balance has obviously shifted towards business for the first time a separate economic system is going to have to come out and justify a living wage and it’s going to have to be paired with more direct representation, new markets and a new security provided by NZDF.

    Security is important because I believe that near future wars won’t be fought all at once but by proxocy and insurgencies and a lot of domestic tensions that could bring us to a bloody revolution or even civil war.

    A lot of those unanswered immigration questions could easily poor fuel on the fire with anti New Zealand sentiment, organisation and state sponsorship. This isn’t a game of checkers. These are variables that turn human rights abuses into much larger conflict.

    So Kris will just have to respond with the usual fluff and Mike Treen and perhaps others are just going to have to reveal the extent of treachery in backing human trafficking one way or another.

    I mean God damn it Kris all he had to do was reaffirm New Zealand’s commitment to human rights.

    1. ‘China shouldn’t even come into it. If Bejing becomes uncooperative and pushes sanctions against New Zealand then we can just cut ties with them and enforce human rights’

      That would provide a very ‘interesting’ scenario, since China is the biggest customer for most of NZ exports, and is the biggest supplier of goods sold in NZ.

      Oh, maybe you are living on a different planet from me, the one on which NZ is a major land mass with a large population of well-educated, highly ambitious people in an advanced industrial state, and China is a small group of islands with a low population of semi-peasants we can dispense with at a moment’s notice. 🙂

      1. Those are even more difficult questions with even more difficult answers. No matter what track we take either the trade route to foreign policy or the diplomatic route they are both on a lower track with lower GDP growth. That’s just the way capitalism operates, it seeks out the lowest wage costs.

        There’s no easy answers and all I can say is these guys can’t be put in jail.

    2. What is the point of the ‘$20 living wage’ when so many jobs are now cash. Many reports of this, and reports of people who are NZ citizens unable to get work at these so called high demand jobs because our work system has already moved to an Asian model not Western for work. AKA exploitative and restrictive and favouring those who are less likely to ‘dob’ in their employers scams.

      1. Yeah well benefit rates should in theory be sufficient enough to price exploitation out of the markets. Obviously we need new markets.

        1. The residency ‘bonus’ means that people will still be better off by paying up to 1 million to come to NZ because just superannuation alone for just one parent, is a 1 million tax payer perk. Then when you work out all the free health care and schooling for the entire family, (plus being able to on-sell ‘marriages’ etc), you can see that our entire immigration system is well worth the gamble of sending off some youngster to provide the initial visa and start the ball rolling.

          1. If new markets aren’t found then New Zealand will end up carrying a whole bunch of empty commercial and residential properties and way to much debt.

            There are massive headwinds for GDP growth and property prices. We just have to use Covid19 as a tool to fix everything.

          2. New markets were found, green technology and advances in food and medicine (and the combination of theses). Sadly NZ favours low level degrees and slave labour and profit led education for peanut wages and overseas led neoliberal managers who seem to prioritise their individual bonus and other companies over the ones they are running, which is why our productivity and most measures in social terms (educational standards, hospital beds) are dropping. Example Fonterra laid off their research and development staff while pursuing the China/South America partnerships which were ultimately a disaster and lost Fonterra market share and reputation as well as the pushed under carpet, dead and injured babies.

          3. Being an overstayer for 18 years, buy your mortgage free home in one of the richest parts of Auckland from your cash painting business, have kids who get the best education and sports from NZ that increasingly Kiwi kids actually don’t get and can’t afford anymore and favouring those kids with money, why wouldn’t you come to NZ, set up cash business and overstay.h ttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teenage-kiwi-fears-deportation-because-parents-are-overstayers/JV5ZNSD74TGTYTDNIIWVNBKYAA/

            As per that article the woke, media and government and social services bang on about how vulnerable the children of overstayers are… meanwhile in the same universe it appears that it’s NZ born children to NZ born parents that seem to have zero support from the NZ system. Nobody cares a damn about them and it shows. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/398171/auckland-teen-was-kidnapped-and-tortured-court-hears https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/305949/child-who-has-lived-in-van-has-message-for-pm

            In fact NZ likes to reward foreign drugs smugglers with NZ residency while the growing victims of that are all around us in our communities.

            That is how sick NZ has become as a society and why I despise the woke so much who are more interested in massive help for middle class and wealthy overseas visa holders and overstayers and mostly for their own private gain support them, than the poor Kiwis who are begging on the streets, living in cars and teenagers who are randomly discovered in bins https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/398171/auckland-teen-was-kidnapped-and-tortured-court-hears because nobody is looking out for them or bodies undiscovered in our uni halls from our business led education. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/25/new-zealand-student-dead-two-months-university/

            So lets put all our efforts into cash Chinese builders and increasing their rights in NZ rather than looking around at the seriously bad signals that are under our noises (but due to not giving lobby groups and politicians private money like the Chinese builders), are ignored.

          4. You want to live in a house built by slaves? Didn’t work out to well for
            the Pyramids of Giza.

  2. Anyone who has done any delving into the way things are done in NZ knows that corruption, lies and ineptitude reign supreme at all levels, and the art of governance is to pretend it just ain’t so, and to avoid responsibility wherever possible.

    Whether Kris Faafoi is capable of exhibiting the required level of avoidance of responsibility is yet to be seen.

    As for the Chinese workers, of course they were exploited. That has been the case since the western world first discovered the large pool of impoverished people early in the nineteenth century and began shipping them to places where Europeans we reluctant to work for shit wages under terrible conditions.

    1. “Anyone who has done any delving into the way things are done in NZ knows that corruption, lies and ineptitude reign supreme at all levels, and the art of governance is to pretend it just ain’t so, and to avoid responsibility wherever possible.”
      Ae. And corruption figures are pretty much based on what ‘officials’ provide.
      For a decade or so, although we are among the least corrupt, the difference is that in lil ole NuZull that punches above its weight, corruption is covert, whereas in those there them “shithole” nations, it’s out in the open.
      The good thing is, that “art of governance” is beginning to look like a nasty little daub on a sheet of toilet paper.
      I think I prefer overt corruption. At least the plebs know where they stand

  3. Maybe make sure that immigration agents in countries such as China and India are actually NZers, and not people subcontracted to do the work. ie open to rampant corruption. This has been going on for a long time. Name and shame and crack down on foreign companies and business owners who are exploiting workers. In our country they play by our rules – shape up or ship out.

    1. Nice idea if we were talking 20 years ago. If you think NZers (i.e. PRs and Citizens) are not involved in much of it, you’re fooling yourself.
      Inaction has allowed it all to have become quite sophisticated, and even last time I looked at the MBIE website (admitedly a while ago), they were still encouraging vertical integration of things like shitty PTEs, Labour Hire companies, security companies and other exploiters with immigration ‘advisors’.
      The horse has bolted and it’s all working as designed.
      And now – the good (Robsons, McClymonts, a couple of Singh’s and others) are tarred with the same brush as the very ugly.
      There are some solutions of course. Just not ones ‘officials’ or Munsters are prepared to take

      1. They always knew that as they got migrants in to do immigration work then it would be too tempting for them not to prioritise their own people or their own wallets.

        AKA Kiribati immigration staff granted Kiribati nations more visas if they were Kiribati themselves. Apparently the majority of the immigration staff are migrants and the majority of vehicle licensing (aka identification via drivers licenses) are migrants. That change has been rapid and now creating a culture of processing that do not reflect NZ and clearly opening up the entire system to massive frauds or which with the absence of oversight will not be easily detected. No questions seemed to be asked why so many people in NZ seem to not meet the criteria once granting residency, turning to crime, and can’t work in NZ without breaking NZ laws.

        the Immigration Amendment Act (2015) only has a paltry fine of $100k (when recruitment agencies are bringing in a lot of workers each paying up to $50k, what sort of deterrent is that?) , how many employers have been deported who were found guilty of exploitation within 10 years of getting NZ residency/citizenship, my guess is none, and how many migrant employers or migrant controlled management continue with multiple ERA cases agains them while becoming extremely rich (CHCH liquor baron).

        You just need to liquidate a company or say a worker is a contractor, to not to pay them appropriately and try to weasel out of ERA prosecution. Just banning employers 1 year of not having access to migrant labour once proved to exploit them, is pathetic.

  4. Great article and Sam’s comment makes sense .
    I thought no one could be worse than Ian Lees Galloway in immegration but I was wrong . Faafoi could give master classes .

    1. They’re better than the alternative @Trev – which is somethink we’re all supposed to be thankful for (in this space, going forward) apparently. Except there’s a shock or two on the horizon, and thankfully we’ll still get the gummint we deserve – unless of course ‘fishinsy and fektivniss’ is applied to the electoral commission before ’23.
      And although Faafoi is due for his mid-life crisis and as useless as tits on a bull, he’s not prone to the temptations of a young ambitious filly who should have known better. Unfortunately, although there were one or two better options (including an Allan, and even a McNulty despite their supposed inexperience), f-f-f-f-F-aaa.f-f-f-f-Fa-aaaaa-f-f-f-Foi is also one of the teacher’s pets.
      The natives are getting restless – as they should be

  5. Immigration is a Ponzi in NZ. The only way to stop a Ponzi is to expose it, and stop those putting money into the scheme from doing so, let it collapse and end the pain for those in the Ponzi about to put more money in. I mean by this the workers who are putting money into third party hands to get NZ permanent residency and move their entire family to NZ (or start one here) on the backs of temporary visas like student and work visas.

    The only way to stop our Ponzi immigration is to call a complete halt on new immigration applications while the government get to grips with why NZ productivity is so low, why so many exploiters are employing migrants and getting away with it repeatedly, why NZ allows so many temporary visas and people working here for years on ‘student or temp visas’ with all their family also able to piggy back on it and have children here, why new migrants to NZ are taking up 50% of the labour inspectorate time with exploiting more migrants, why so many migrants are turning to crime in NZ and why NZ does nothing about it, why more than one in three households are contributing nothing to New Zealand’s tax take, why 40 per cent – receive more in tax credits and other benefits than they pay in tax. Why housands more are neutral contributors, or are close to it…. and how sustainable is that going forward with more Asian migrant pensioners in NZ than Maori or Pacific Island pensioners, why NZ is 100 billion in debt…. NZ mass immigration experiment for the last 15 years does not seem to be working for continuing a social democracy…

    The reality that doesn’t seem to have hit the woke yet, is that 3 million people able to access a country with 60 million people’s workforce and social welfare system is completely different from countries with 1.3 billion India, 1.3 billion, China or even the Phillipines with 100 million people and all without a functioning social welfare system coming to NZ a country of 5 million….. and it’s just struck them, that the crazy gravy train that has been going to 15 years plus, is not exactly working as the neoliberals and woke seem to think it should aka multiple crisis everywhere in NZ caused by huge insatiable demand.

    If the woke truely cared about the migrants they would be stoping them coming at the source and giving up their money to the people to come to NZ by banning the visas in the first place. Then there is nothing for the human traffickers to sell.

    (Apart from it’s now much easier to sail to NZ, and dump drugs, contraband and people on our beaches and have the inside help to manage it – government have even set up a hotline to report).

  6. In short government need to stop the trafficking rings, but not by allowing the (willing) trafficked to stay in NZ – they should give evidence from their own countries and the money profits removed by NZ courts and fines from he traffickers and those proceeds of crime, and dispersed back to those who can prove they gave the money to them.

  7. I agree.
    We have only started to scratch off the scab of actual corruption in New Zealand.
    It is always denied by those who benefit the most from it.

    Human and Sex trafficking, Goods smuggling, exploitation, ransoming, extortion and mafioso techniques are very prevalent in many State organisations, all paid for, and managed knowably, by Government Ministries.

    State Sponsorship, through Piracy, in the Pacific region is a growing issue and a major moral failure, which has started to be revealed, by Covid19.
    Many Civilian investigators, like Bellingcat, around the world, are focusing on New Zealand’s role in the Pacific, its role in upholding State Sponsored piracy and it is truly endemic.

  8. ” Why were New Zealand Government employment and labour inspectors prevented by Immigration New Zealand, and the Ministry of Business Innovation and Enterprise (MBIE), from interviewing the ten Chinese workers about their situation? ”
    God strewth!
    Am I to understand The Ministry for Everything’s INZ and The Ministry for Everything’s Labour Inspectorate are at odds?
    If so, that’s progress (/sarc). But seriously – it is
    With the lack of intervention from the so-called responsible Munsters, we should be grateful if they start tearing each other apart – it might go someway to getting change. And now I think about it, Astoria has closed, so, at least in Wellington, until they find somewhere else to be gorgeous, pissing in each other’s pockets might be a bit harder.

  9. He paid $20k and knew he was robbing a kiwi of a job…. victim, yes, but not innocent?

  10. Immigration New Zealand in China has contracted their visa operations out to a private company VFS Global which increases the risk of corruption.
    This would explain the two day visa.
    Through handling visa applications for my wife’s relatives I know that VFS employees are certainly incompetent and do not understand how New Zealand law works.
    They twice declined my sister-in-law’s visitor applications for absolutely no reason. When I challenged them and told them I would write to the Minister of Immigration they made a reconsidered and granted the applications.
    Fortunately they do not know that Kris Faafoi is now Minister of Immigration.

    1. @Stevie, Outsourcing is another lazy and corruption led innovation from neoliberalism. You needed to put in an ‘extra’s sum to ‘process’ the visa successfully aka bribe, quickly. Therefore ensuring honest migrants can’t get to NZ but corrupt ones, can.

  11. Has anyone noticed how the Chinese embassy has NOT raced in to assist its citizens in trouble here?
    Contrast this to the outcry over the arrest of Meng Wanzhou in Canada.
    So the Chinese government ignores ten construction workers in trouble but is very worried about the Deputy Head of Huawei.
    Socialism with Chinese characteristics indeed!

    1. Even China knows that the 10 Chinese builders willingly took part in the visa scam.

      PRC have 1.3 billion people and a plethora of scams and corrupt system to control – this won’t be any sort of priority – especially when it suits them to keep the drugs (pre cursor drug supply chains are mostly from China that drug traffickers rely on for the chemicals to make profitable drugs as methamphetamine and fentanyl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuancheng_Group https://apnews.com/article/4f0a4ca93cc2fee94d386efb13db31a0) and cash labour coming to weaken the West and make it easier to buy up assets there https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealanders-urged-to-help-protect-borders-from-drug-smugglers/LZC52UZUFQQJOGVWTLBP5JOCVE/.

      Who needs nuclear weapons for security when you can destroy the West pretty easily just through drugs and shifting all supply chains to your own country so when Covid hit, the so-called-knowledge based countries couldn’t even produce a protective mask easily and had to use shit that didn’t work https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/19/hospital-leaders-hit-out-government-ppe-shortage-row-escalates-nhs https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/415623/beggars-belief-that-ppe-would-fail-waitemata-dhb-nurse

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