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  1. I dont believe the logic of this argument. By taking this stand, Simon Bridges has made New Zealand First irrelevant. THe Nats have already said that a vote for NZ First is a vote for Labour…. and that is true. A lot of people resent the excessive power that NZ First has gathered in this coalition. If people simply vote Labour, NZ First has no chance of getting back in.
    A smart voter would change his vote from NZ First, not to Labour, but to the Greens, so ensuring Greens get enough votes to be returned but realistically can you imagine a NZ First voter ever voting Green – that is one of the Coalition’s problems? The short fall in NZ First votes will lose the election for Labour.
    The fact that there is a referendum being held the same day also doesn’t help Labour. Both referenda are popular and it will remind voters that they were promoted by ACT, which could get above 1% . I think this was a good move by the Nats.

    1. Absolutely. More than half of NZ First’s voters expected Peters to go with the Nats. These people won’t be voting for Winston First in September which will see them under the 5% threshold and they won’t be getting an electoral seat in Northland either… pure wishful thinking. Smart thinking by Bridges. Game on!

      1. … ” Labour can come out and state that the threat of a National/ACT Government and the obscene underfunding they would employ would set NZ back 20 years on environmental, social and equality fronts and that to avoid the extremes of the Right, Labour, the Greens and NZ First will officially work together to defeat such a Government ” …

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        Exactly , Martyn.

        And that is all they have to do. Nine years of corrupt practice and desperate measures to ‘privatize it all’ dressed up as beneficial ‘ policy’ instead of ‘cash for the mates ‘ in selling off our remaining assets , and mass homelessness – and , – Bennett running round putting beneficiary family’s in motels and plunging them into unpayable amounts of debt forever , – not to mention the IMF ‘suggesting’ John Keys govt was ‘ enabling ‘ tax havens in NZ…

        Oh,… and after Pike River,… the working report that stated ‘ worm farming’ was a ‘ high risk occupation’…

        Oh screw it… the list is far too long to mention here…

        Look this up instead.

        thestandard.org.nz › the-great-big-list-of-john-keys-big-fat-lies-updated
        The great big list of John Key’s big fat lies (UPDATED) | The …
        Jan 27, 2016 – The great big list of John Key’s big fat lies (UPDATED)

        And then of course this :

        thedailyblog.co.nz › Deconstructing Headlines
        435 lies by John Key | The Daily Blog

        1. Current polling has NZFirst on 4.3% so even a loss of just 20% would be detrimental to their reelection chances

    2. Bridges is “hoping” to make N.Z. irrelevant. If he doesn’t, then he’s screwed. The fact that he now is enlisting Australia’s help should be alarming and more evidence he is out of his depth. He and his party will once again resort to “dirty politics”. The SFO may have found Bridges innocent in the $100,000 Chinese donation, however he is implicated by association.
      All of which leads to a party that any sane individual wouldn’t touch with a barge pole, not unless you have extremely low morals.

  2. You have been hoping for Simons demise for months but it was wishful thinking and while I am sure you know more about the deals that go on behind the scenes than most to me it seems a show of force and has cut one of Winstons many heads

    1. Absolute arrogance rather than a show of force. Remember the Jamie Lee Ross tapes?
      But then that’s Nationals problem, Bridges arrogance and the polls say he’s just not that well liked and hard to believe anything he says.
      Winston has spades on Bridges.

    2. Trev I think soimon is already gone, people just don’t like him okay please can you get that into your head
      His polling says it all it has been consistently low that is why judeath has released her memoirs. I wonder if she is going to reflect on her oravida self promotional trip, the one she got exposed on for heading in the wrong direction to the airport.

  3. It’s interesting to watch reaction.
    Kiwiblog is overwhelmingly positive on this.
    The standard is deathly quiet.
    I have a strong belief in holding parties to account whoever they are.
    Let’s hope NZ first get the dustbin this election they so richly deserve.

  4. Oh I see TS has a thread on this now.
    I’m not seeing “happy” as I’d expect if this move played in to labour hands..
    “Confused Dross” seems an appropriate summary.

  5. Well I see this as a win for NZ in that this may knock Winston out of parliament, a win for Labour and the Greens in that even if Winston does get to 5% he has less power at the negotiation table (if hes needed at all) and a win for National in that the right-leaning voters of NZFirst now know without a shadow of a doubt that a vote for Winston is a wasted vote (although they should have known that anyway)

    So a win for everyone and, hopefully, Winston is consigned to the dustbin

  6. In one respect you have to understand Simon’s rational, as too many partners gets complicated. I mean Nat/Act/NZF/CCP looks kind of messy.

  7. Nope, again it is a smart move, as half of NZ First voters tend to be rather conservative, who would otherwise vote Nats, rather than Labour or Greens or ACT. So Bridges tells them, do not bother voting for Winston, as you will then only help Labour back in. Hence they are forced to consider Nats or not vote at all, leaving NZ First out of Parliament.

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