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  1. Imagine the fucken kaos if every individual was able to borrow 500 times what they earned .No person or business with even the smallest brain would think of doing so .Brown is deluded if he thinks that rate payers are not going to see an increase ,directly or indirectly ,in the cost of owning a property .Currently my rates take 12% of my weekly income and council is moving towards water meters that will add another layer of cost .At my previous house in another council area when water meters were installed the rates did not decrease so they were in effect double dipping .It is fast becoming very expensive to own a property now with recent rates increases and large insurance increases ,my car premium just shot up 60%,it may be time to find a decent cardboard box and a bridge to live under .

    1. Had Labour not muddied its Three Waters by introducing the suicidal politics of co-governance, and focused strictly on the most economically efficient way to deal with water supply, sewerage, and stormwater drainage, Three Waters would have been up and running a long time ago.

      1. Really? So it wasn’t about democracy? That’s what we were told by some. In the end it was just about racist fear mongering

    2. 500% is not 500 times. It is exactly the same as when you buy for example a house, pay a deposit and then find you still owe 10 years (or more) salary that you must finance through some lending agency. That example would be borrowing 1000%, not 1000 times your salary.

      1. Everyone has been careful not to make the comparison to mortagages but is this the equivalent to a debt to income ratio of 5:1? That’s very mild compared to the 10:1 ratio that is common amongst home owners but still a long way from the more sensinel 3:1 ratio which was normal until neoliberalism started to do it’s work

  2. If you believe the likes of Trevor there was some plot to degrade water infrastructure over years and years, to give Māori the opportunity to take control. This country can’t think more than 30 minutes into the future.

    1. agreed that is the problem as all the red necks could not see past the lie that DAA MAORI ,are stealing the water ,air ,and rolling up all the beaches and taking them away ,because they want all those things them selves to go with the land they stole over the last 200 years .

  3. “It was always going to waste time and risk being distracted and pulled apart, which is what happened.”

    So three waters was a virtue signal?

    The water infrastructure was already owned by the people. The virtue signal helped the left be removed from office. Now the right spins we can’t have a credit downgrade and will attempt to give the existing and future assets to mates at international water Inc. Like any kind of strategic monopoly the govt will still be seen to stand behind it. The right will ensure citizens are shafted on less democratic control, local govt. credit downgrade, higher user charges to cover higher private interest costs and Water Inc monopoly profit and worse customer service.

    All that instead of fixing the overimmigration problem.

  4. agreed that is the problem as all the red necks could not see past the lie that DAA MAORI ,are stealing the water ,air ,and rolling up all the beaches and taking them away ,because they want all those things them selves to go with the land they stole over the last 200 years .

  5. Well I am glad to live in the Far North with two huge rain water tanks and a filtration system.

    The beach settlement has a three decade old sewage system that works pretty well, part of rates payments keep it going, but little council provided stormwater management. So a mixed bag, but I feel for all those communities that are going to get regular boil water notices and have shit showers exploding like Wellington.

    This whole matter is a consequence of 40 years of neo liberalism and underspending on public infrastructure.

    1. all good till the greedy cunts sell all the land to jaffas for housing then you will be knee deep in shit and the fish will be dead .No doubt the current sewage ,so called treated ,water is piped into the sea .Where I live the so called treated water is piped into the Mokau river from where it ends up on the west coast

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