Similar Posts

11 Comments

  1. I agree but want to point out that you’ve misleading quoted corrections trans policy – in full, it makes it clear prisoners are placed in whatever prison the sex on their birth cert says. Where the cert isn’t changed, the part of the policy you quoted applies.

    If a prisoners birth cert says F, even if they have a recent history of sexually assaulting women, corrections *must* place that prisoner in a female prison.

    The policy you quoted above is only relevant to trans prisoners who have not yet altered the sex marker on their birth cert. One step sex changes would mean a way around the current safeguarding for anyone who wants it – that’s the issue here.

    Regardless, we do need to end double bunking.

    1. If a prisoners birth cert says F, even if they have a recent history of sexually assaulting women, corrections *must* place that prisoner in a female prison.

      Not true, Stephanie.

      Martyn was correct. Corrections policy clearly states;

      “A transgender prisoner whose detention relates to a serious sexual offence against a person of their nominated gender, or who was released from a prison sentence for such an offence within the last seven years, will not be eligible to apply to the Chief Executive [for placement in accordance with their nominated gender].”

      ref: Corrections Dept OIA Release, 3 September 2018, https://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/corrections-dept-oia-statement-on-transgender-prisoners-3-9-2018/

      It is unclear where your information comes from, as it is not Corrections Dept policy.

      There is more analysis of the Corrections Dept OIA Response here: https://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2019/03/23/anti-trans-activists-fudge-oia-statement-report/

      Martyn’s assertion that double bunking is unsafe and untenable is the clear issue here. This applies to all prisoners and prisoners, irrespective of their gender.

  2. My understanding from contacts in both the Australian and New Zealand Criminal Justice System is that a lot of the perceptions about prison violence in general are wrong, and perpetuated solely by pop culture. There’s definitely a huge violence problem in prisons, but, not for the reasons or the methods usually often outlined.

    So let’s review the real problems quickly. So far what I’ve seen mentioned:

    1) Lack of concern for the wellbeing of prisoners. “Oh well, they’re criminals, so who cares?” attitude.
    2) Not enough prison guards. One man tasked with keeping control of 100? Not good.
    3) Corruption.

    We can also add:

    4) In previous governments at least, an obsession with packing as many people as possible into the prison system, just to look “tough on crime.”
    5) Lack of well resourced rehabilitation programs.
    6) The idea that sexual violence is funny, as long as it happens to people you don’t like.

    So there are several problems, however. The first one, and the one I think is the reason why rehabilitation can’t work with the current jail system, is that people with low offenses are put with mudereres, rapists etc, who will probably abuse the weakest. A guy that was sent to jail for traffic offences ain’t going to get better when he comes out if he’s abused inside.

    The other problem, at least in my opinion, is that there is some people that just don’t deserve to be rehabilitated. Some people don’t deserve the chance to come back to society.

  3. if sexually assaulted they should be able to sue the government for sexual violation and violation of human rights to be kept safe in custody

    double bunking is not rehabilitation…it will encourage more criminality…is this what the government wants?

    1. 100% RB. Double bunking is a hazard and cannot be tolerated in a civilised society. These prisoners’ safet is the responsibility of the State and that cannot be ducked.

      Kudos Martin for shining light on this scandal!

    2. RB , you are 100% on this

      Well put

      A few lawsuits will pretty damned quickly grab the govt’s attention

  4. Some of the men sexually abused went into prison for dishonesty offences and got raped no wonder some of them end up f..d up and hard to rehabilitate.

  5. “Hijack the debate for their own agendas?”

    Standing up for vulnerable women sexually assaulted in a prison by male-bodied people isn’t about ‘own agendas’. UN guidelines on the treatment of prisoners state that males and females need to be separated in prison.

    NZ is putting vulnerable females at risk with policies that are based on pseudo-science.

    1. The OIA Response from Corrections which was first deployed as a weapon against transwomen prisoners gave scant detail as to the circumstances regarding six cases involving transwomen prisoners.

      As I found out, the assertions made by those using the OIA Response misrepresented what Corrections had actually stated. My report was published on TDB two months ago: https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/03/12/anti-trans-activists-fudge-oia-statement-report/

      As such, your assertion that “NZ is putting vulnerable females at risk with policies that are based on pseudo-science” is not backed up by any known evidence.

      1. Well sussed Frank. When you shine a spotlight on something you really strip away the bullshit.

        Shared on FB.

  6. Frank and Martyn together are a tough act to beat

    Well done Martyn, kudos to you on this critical issue

Comments are closed.