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  1. As long as TVNZ and Radio NZ are allowed to continue broadcasting the absolute shit that they are currently allowed to broadcast, nothing will change and the populace will remain uninformed/misinformed, with the environmental burden that is falling on children increasing by the day.

    The next stage of the Planetary Meltdown involves reduced harvests, higher production costs and reduction of the amount of food distributed by industrial agriculture (along with ever lower quality that accompanies stripping the Earth of everything good) -leading to increased levels of malnutrition and mass starvation. Plus a bit more desertification and inundation that will reduce the area of land available for food production.

    The increased magnitude and frequency of devastating storms, heatwaves, droughts and forest fires etc. are a given, as the political-economic system marches on inexorably towards complete collapse., avoiding taking ANY sane action on anything of significance.

    1. Food depends on waters.
      As aquifers are pumped dry and will take thousands of years to replenish then the take and use now practice is suicidal.

      https://www.inverse.com/article/48142-ogallala-aquifer-conservation-measures-us-drought-farm-irrigation

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjsThobgq7Q

      The USA with its aggressive plunder of resources globally will soon be into chronic water shortage and consequent food shortage and starvation. That puts nations with water in un measured danger.

  2. Much like the childrens crusade of 1212, a lot of wishful thinking- the 1212 variety believed the children and their minders would peacefully convert the Muslims occupying Jerusalem to Christianity. Many children returned home after the initial novelty wore off, the remaining children on the march ended up being sold as slaves, or drowned in the ships taking them to the holy land.
    Our 2021 variety means the children will need to convert the powers that be and older generations that their present way of life will need to fundamentally change to have any impact. They will be betrayed and ruined by those whom say they are their supporters. The way we need to address climate AND environment (they are entwined) is to have an ‘establishment’ figure prepared for the long haul that is willing to lead a real ‘climate change crusade’ against all comers and on multiple fronts.

    1. Yes it becomes a focus on the kids not the situation they are protesting about.

      The situation is grim beyond public realisation.
      1.3 degree C rise since industrialisation and the present atmospheric CO2 and other GHG need not be added to to see several degrees rise given time for the heat to be absorbed. Runaway release of methane from the Artic is occurring and the massive stores covered by the Antarctic ice sheet will not be too far away..

      The talk of limiting rise to 1.6 degrees C is just talk while we carry on to certain oblivion.
      Blame the kids because if no one had any kids then the problems would be just for the other earthling species.

  3. A commendable group but in Chch they had not checked their facts. They shouted down the mayor because she could not back their claim for free buses. The buses are not run by the council they are run by ECAN. They want her to stop the airport at Tarras but they council has no say in the running of the airport company. They want money put into teaching climate change in schools but the council does not have input to schools or their curriculum. Mayor Dazeil deserved more respect.
    There are not simple answers to turning the climate ship,around and while we all know teenagers have always had all the solutions unfortunately they do not . As a teenager myself we marched against the bomb but that did no good and now I understand the arguement about the balance of power from strength . While it is not perfect it is a fact

    1. Thanks for that insight, Trevor – it sounds a bit like anarchy. Using extraneous issues for political purposes is common enough, but it’s not very safe if it is coming from turns out to be a mob. Ada up above maintains that television showed the protests with, “ many professional salaried parents and grandparents accompanying” etc. I don’t really believe her, but I’m not privy to the income or employment status of total strangers – but those seemingly educated oldies would surely have known that some of the kids’ issues were off beam? That’s why I’m thinking anarchy – but I would not want to see adolescents silenced – and if they can drag their aged grandparents along with them, it could be a good ride.

    2. A mayoral candidate John Minto canvassed on free public transport which of course is possible.
      ECAN oh yes that’s the group jonky sacked and put in his cronies to allow dairy intensification and overshoot with irrigation which together have caused a dangerous rise in groundwater nitrogen threatening water supplies for Canterbury communities making the area one of the more highly polluted and damaged water systems in NZ.
      That will take much longer to rectify than what it will take to reduce CO2 emissions.
      If Dalzeil cant listen then how can she think. Receiving a message is not too hard. A clean out of the gatekeepers may happen yet.

  4. Not just climate change, but pollution and environmental destruction is equally important to focus on.

    Not just lakes and fresh water but the sea is our toilet.

    Japan to start Fukushima water release to sea in two years
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/japan-to-start-fukushima-water-release-to-sea-in-two-years/VDV52573IFCDHZ4MXD4HXP3WQQ/

    Oceania Dairy Ltd granted consents for controversial wastewater pipeline
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/oceania-dairy-ltd-granted-consents-for-controversial-wastewater-pipeline/XXZJGIQSZNL5H5FWJMHCG4YWQY/

    The cost of high growth – the dirty secret Auckland council would rather you not know about
    http://www.mikelee.co.nz/2017/03/the-cost-of-high-growth-the-dirty-secret-auckland-council-would-rather-you-not-know-about/

    1. No one is talking about drastically reducing energy harvesting but that is the key,
      They are just not up with it having been distracted and lied to about a thousand ways to set things right except using less energy progressive and less natural resources.
      For those who just don’t understand the movement on from 2 billion humans was based on increased energy harvesting which leads yo increased resource consumption which leads to increased pollution which has led to global warming soil loss, species and habitat loss, depletion of aquifers and before long global food shortages, followed by decrease in life expectancy and human die off.

      Magic bullets? Oh no they take energy and resource consumption.

      Migrate to the moon – thoughts for lunatics.

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