Sam Stubbs was 100% right about Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk shooting: Simplicity KiwiSaver boss Sam Stubbs says freedom of speech being lost
Outspoken Kiwi businessman Sam Stubbs, who received flak for comments on Charlie Kirk, says the US conservative’s opinions made him angry and he wanted to express that.
Stubbs, co-founder and director of KiwiSaver provider Simplicity, told Ryan Bridge on Herald NOW he was sad Kirk had died, “but we’ve got to live in a world where you’re able to express your views and you have freedom of expression”.
He then said the US was losing freedom of speech and compared it to 1930s Germany.
Stubbs said on social media on Saturday: “We should mourn the violence, but not the man. And we certainly cannot eulogise a racist, sexist and bigot.”
Let’s be clear.
In the West, we whakapapa to an anglo-saxon democratic tradition with values that date back to the Magna Carter. Over those 1000 years those values have been shaped by Catholic, Protestant, Whig and Tory protagonists to create sacrosanct principles that are the bedrock upon which we build our democracy.
The rule of law, an independent judiciary, freedom and liberty of the individual, contract law, no taxation without representation and Free Speech.
Whatever you think of Charlie Kirk and his incendiary rhetoric, Free Speech is a paramount value that can not be attacked in the despicable manner of his assassination.
I will not celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk, because that is ghoulish and the principle of free speech is too important, but equally – I’m not going to pander to martyring him as a free speech hero either – he was protected by Free Speech, he wasn’t a champion of it!
Charlie Kirk was a Christofascist Hate Grifter who would go to Colleges and beat up on kids intellectually weaker than him with hard right rhetoric designed to cause offence!
Now he is protected by free speech for that inflammatory language, but martyring him as some sort of religious saint only promotes the rhetoric he used, it doesn’t stand for the principles of free speech.
The game being played by MAGA now is to martyr Kirk and weaponise free speech as a cudgel to silence dissent, as we are seeing with Jimmy Kimmel.
Sam Stubbs was 100% right.
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Well he is being eulogised…..by racist sexist bigots. Either that or people watch absolute crap like sky news Australia without doing their own looking around. The circus around the investigation into Kirk’s death is just a con job. Its just bizarre that unlike the 30’s Zionists have a seat at the table
This assassination of Charlie Kirk favors the far-right in nations like the US, UK, NZ, AUS, CAN, FRA, GER, ISR etc. all European countries and colonies wonder why?
Sam Stubbs is 100% right but business pragmatism required him to protect his investors and clients so he was forced to apologise.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360824731/simplicity-boss-apologises-after-backlash-charlie-kirk-post
Neither Charlie Kirk nor Sam Stubbs have freedom of speech.
So, the Institute of Israel was investing in Sam Stubbs?
That could be the case but I just see from the last 10 years people no longer have the freedom to state their personal view without them being “held to account” and receive some kind of schooling retribution by an employer, customer, investor, colleague, supplier, internet mob.
Nz needs to call out the current wave of hatred for people who dont fit the mold of shrinking group who think they are supreme because they are white christians .Just look at the war being waged against Te REO and the Treaty in our schools along with the white washing of our history .
The good thing is that the younger generations have a more open mind than the over 40s here in NZ .So long term all of this hate will be kicked to the trash where it belongs .
MAGA is a tool, Charlie Kirk was a (well paid) tool. Their job is/was to divide the people, therefore undermine the ability of the people to push back against the powerful – against ruling class interests. Today’s genocide, today’s wars, all serve ruling class interests. These interests and the people behind them all need protecting…this issue and its undermining of free speech and divisiveness, helps do just that.
I think we should not be giving this man a platform who cares what he thinks he is not one of us he does not live in our country, and we don’t need imported shit here we need to clean our own shit up. I had never heard of him until now and personally I am not interested.
I think we should not be giving this man a platform who cares what he thinks he is not one of us he does not live in our country, and we don’t need imported shit here we need to clean our own shit up. I had never heard of him until now and personally I am not interested. People get shot in America all the time this is no different they even shoot children in schools so what do you expect with their gun culture and amendment saying they have a right to bear arms.