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  1. Ah, Dr Moon thinks they are “fools”? Are we now at a stage where the already so widely REWRITTEN HISTORY (current narrative by “the west” and some other powers) is now all that matters. Questioning the actual causes for the anger, frustration, dissent and increasing violence in the Middle East is no longer appropriate, it seems.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Future_of_Palestine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state

    I could continue pasting other links, with sufficient evidence that it was former colonial powers such as the UK and France, and later also the US, who facilitated or at least effectively assisted the establishment of a Zionist State in what we know as Palestine, which then drove hundreds of thousands of established local populations out, and basically disowned them.

    As the powers involved, and the Zionist lobby in the US, the UK and elsewhere have all much to cover up, this discussion about the right of Israel to exist is no longer an “issue” for most. Now we are moving to justify the settlement policy and further disowning of the Palestinian Arabs in their homeland on the West Bank, are we?

    Gaza is a strip that is like a huge, overpopulated ghetto, and Israel keeps it blockaded, as they are furious about some Palestinians still challenging the now status quo and at times dare firing some second or third rate, hopeless missiles towards Isreaeli territory.

    But, Mr Moon, the powers there are, the dominant and ruling ones, having much to answer for that led to the rise of the islamist and jihadist groups in the Middle East, they are all “right”, are they, and those challenging the inhumane status quo are “fools”, are they?

    I can see Mr Moon having cheered on the Japanese Imperialists and German Nazis, had they won the last war, and now established a “friendly” government in New Zealand, subservient to their interests.

    The winner takes all, it seems, and as Israel has “won” with force, and has blood at its hands, and as they have seized so much territory, they are in the “right”, I presume.

    What total and utter nonsense we get presented.

    1. One of the primary difficulties in assessing the Israel/Palestine situation is that it is so difficult to find reports that are not near totally supportive of one side or the other. The Hamas constitution seeks to eliminate Israelis from Israel, the Israeli one defines its absolute right to the land now occupied and a lot more in Jordan and Syria which is not. Having visited and spoken and listened at length with Israeli and Palestinian people I was surprised at how much all but the extremists held in common. Both Israel and Hamas seem bound by their conservatives making moves together increasingly difficult
      John Marcon

  2. Any ideology or political movement that calls for the extermination of a whole race (jews) must be inhuman and should be opposed and condemned as unacceptable

    1. Do you make the same observations on Israeli land-seizures and oppression against Palestinians? Or are you another stooge for the Israeli regime?

      And do you support UN Resolution 242 which called for Israeli withdrawl of land seized in the 1967 conflict? https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/7D35E1F729DF491C85256EE700686136

      And which also allowed free movement through international waterways: “For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area”.

      Or are you as selective in your views as are all your fellow stooges who pop up every time there is a blogpost on Israeli aggression against Palestinians?

    2. Any ideology based on race or religious belonging alone (Zionist or Wahhabi – or whatever), claiming to possess a sole, exclusive authority over rights to land and so forth, and to their forms of justice, must be inhumane and should be opposed and condemned as unacceptable.

      The same applies to any ideology (e.g. Zionism) that calls for the claim to the land legally owned and occupied by others, also under common law, and to then pressure to leave or forcefully remove of such owners and occupiers.

      Zionism is not much different to Nazism, I conclude, the difference may be the methods used, and the number of the people affected.

  3. The flotilla was told well in advance that Israel intended to intercept. I believe this was even reported in the media. Clearly Israel did not want an escalation of events. So all thing considered this “cheap media stunt” went according to plan.

    “a ship of fools” they are though. Everybody knows the woman on the ‘Freedom Flotilla’ were lucky. Israel could have keep them detained, say, 6 months, slowly releasing one or two. Marama Davidson could have still been sitting in a cell when parliament next reconvened.

    Was she a fool or was she brave? Is Israel aggressive or proactive in defense? The narratives can be wide and varied. What sickened me was Marama Davidson saying, I’ve been “Taken” by the “The Israeli Oppression Forces” and ‘they are oppressing us woman’!

    Looked to me like she was doing an Otis Redding and sitting on the dock of the bay. She looked neither taken or oppressed. Considering the flotilla was warned of interception and for all intensive purposes escorted to land – saying she was ‘taken’ is over-the-top. I’m sure Liam Neeson’s fictional daughter from the movie Taken would have loved access to an internet connection and video equipment.

    1. Zack, tell us, do you support Resolution 242 from the UN, which called for;

      Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

      and,

      For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;

      Ref: https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/7D35E1F729DF491C85256EE700686136

      So yes, according to UN Resolution 242, the ships had every right to move through international waterways. And since Gaza is not a part of Israel, the Israeli Navy had no legal right to seize the vessel. That is piracy.

      Or are you selective in your morality and support only Israeli aggression against an unarmed people? Because if you think justice can be achieved through “superior firepower”, then you obviously have not paid any attention to the lessons of history.

      Yes, Marama is a brave woman. She stands alongside those who protested the Vietnam War, apartheid in Sth Africa, and atomic bomb testing by the French.

      We have a long tradition in such matters, and resisting Israeli imperialism and land-grabs in the Middle East is no exception.

      1. The IDF and Mossad IT staffers have stumbled across TDB and are uttering their nasty propaganda here, I fear. Cyber-warfare it is called, a sign of the times.

    2. “The flotilla was told well in advance that Israel intended to intercept.” What gives Israel the right to hijack any vessel in international waters, with or without prior notice?
      The writer seeks to divert attention away from the facts of Israel’s criminal inhumanities because he cannot refute the evidence.

  4. “Professor” Paul Moon is a dickhead of the first order. He has a history of making controversial headline grabbing statements; I think he does this to drum up publicity for the Auckland “University” of Technology which used to be an excellent polytechnic, but is now very much a third rate university.

  5. Thanks Leslie. It sounds like Dr. Moonbeam is the one with little understanding of the — ” geopolitical situation in the region. ”

    It also sounds like he is the kind of bias and righteous professor we all wanted to avoid at uni.
    Many Uni’s and prof’s have already been bought and owned by those who fund them and fund their research projects and that perpetuate lies and half truths and hypocrisy and double standards.

    Maybe ? moon has family in Israel or close jewish friends or has much invested in the US and Israel
    states of madness and BIG OIL greed and funding continual war games for profit ? ?
    Either way, I am glad I am not studying under him.
    What a bore and a righteous pompous misled – ” want to be ” – narrow minded professor.

    Marama – we support you and stand by what you have done. Paul Henry is an idiot in what he said about this issue. Henry and Moon – more bought slimy puppets with loud mouths and little real understanding.

  6. Zionist propaganda is alive and well in NZ, after their failed attempt to steal NZ passports to be used by their murder agents in third countries where NZ passports are respected and Israeli passports are rubbished, and their rapid escape from our shores.

    Dr Paul Moon is well know for his strange perspectives on native peoples, the Zionist PR machine here in NZ are running a campaign to convince Maori to support their Zionist racist state, they are pushing their Israeli flag with the flag that represents Aotearoa.

    They attempt to convince ‘Christian Maori’ that supporting the Israeli state is supporting Christianity, Jews are not Christians…they are anything but… They are more like Nazi’s than Christians.

    I think Mr Moon has fallen into their web of lies and violent behaviour…we should never forget they were the first terrorists in the Middle East…when they murdered British troops and civilians… during their revolt against the British occupation of Palestine…after the British handed of a bit of Palestine for Zionist use…

    The Zionist thank you was to forcibly take over all of Palestine and do what the Nazi’s did, drive the people into concentration style camps etc… all this was done in the name of God.

    But not the God of the Christians…but the Zionist God of greed.

    1. Certainly in America many christians are taught that Israel has a special destiny and that anybody/country who trys to devide the land of Israel will be punished. There are Bible quotes used to further this argument. As such Israel enjoys a special relationship with America.

      However, this may not be reflective of biblical teaching. Rejection of Jesus by the Jews begin the ‘time of the gentiles’. Scholars believe Israel used in a revelationary context clearly refers to all believers in Jesus – otherwise known as ‘spiritual Israel’.

      Israel’s population is very ignorant of christianity. Many Americans are taught that the Jewish people have a devine right to modern day Israel and more – many who believe this are Republicans. What they are not told is the Bible teaches after Pentecost there was no ‘special people of God’. ‘No distinction between Jew and Gentile.’

      In fact the Bible teaches that the Jewish people were taken from their land and into captivity at one point due to their undesirable ways and lack of faith. Well, they certainly do not have faith in Jesus today…

      1. Newsflash, Zack, if people are going to rely on a piece of religious quackery to justify oppression, then having a god “on your side” is not much of a moral argument.

    2. “Jews are not Christians…they are anything but… They are more like Nazi’s than Christians.”

      I disagree with this, equating “Jews” with Nazis is an affront, same as throwing in Palestinians into one category as “terrorist”, as some others have done.

      Perhaps you mean Zionists, not “Jews”, it pays to be more careful and distinguish between the both. There are many Jewish people living in Israel and all over the world, who are NOT Zionists, and some oppose what goes on in regards to the people of Palestine, the Arab ones.

      1. Yep. Some of the most impressive critics and debunkers of Israeli state propaganda (and some of the most impressive human rights campaigners in general) are Jewish.

        Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein being just two prominent examples.

        Need to distinguish at all times between Israel as a political entity and Jewish people in general.

        Having said that, given that polls always suggest very large to overwhelming majorities of Israelis approve of the IDF’s periodic carpet-bombing and massacres in Gaza (and Lebanon) over the last decade, I think there is some justification in critiquing the mindset of the Israeli population as a whole at certain times.

  7. I see the Zionists from the local Jewish community and their fellow travellers from Whaleoil are out in force here on The Daily Blog?

    You never hear from these bigots on any other issues. Even the ones pontificating on women’s rights are utterly silent when sexism comes up in our own country. But the moment that Israel is held to account for oppressing the Palestinians, they always invoke the treatment of women in the Middle East.

    This is selective morality at it’s most repugnant.

    The likes of Andrew, Zack Brando, Gosman, Im Right, etc, are apologists for oppressive Zionism. They have no interest whatsoever in woman’s or LGBT rights.

  8. It is too late, it no longer matters about perceived justice and so, the jihadists are now in charge, the Zionists will lose, I fear, this is something I wish never happened, but we have hatred and war now all over the world, this is just the new expression of it, even the heavily militarised state of Israel will not survive this onslaught, I fear:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpcwv3PZvqI

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