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  1. 1. Chloe said she has seen the damage cannabis has caused.
    2. She wants to make it legal so people can access help openly.
    3. Her approach is based on solid public health research.
    3. We have just put 1.9 billion over five years into mental health and addiction services on top of $??? already.
    4. I noted several years ago that one DHB put more money into activity based day programmes for addicts than the whole regions’ primary maternity units.
    Alcohol and drug addiction has a huge cost at every level. We just dont have enough clinical psychologists to cope. Who are we NZ?
    Bunch of absolute pissheads and dopeheads by the look of it Chloe.

    1. Quite right. I’ve never understood this obsession with cannabis and why so many people in NZ are desperate to get their hands freely on the stuff. Sad losers I guess, with nothing else to fill their empty lives. And we will have to cope with more drugged-up drivers on the roads – perhaps my greatest worry considering Kiwi drivers are not the most competent at the best of times.

    2. Its a worldwide activity, millions of people consume cannabis everyday of the year. It seems to me its just peoples judgment of others behavior getting in the way.

      What about the argument from personal freedom? Should people be allowed to make the decisions they deem worthy of there lives without fear of police kicking in the doors?

      The sooner its treated as a health issue the better. This needs to happen regardless of the referendum.

    3. Very intelligent comment OP-keep them coming.
      Ive been asking a few of the old pissheads at the bowling club how to vote on this cannabis thing-mixed bag of poorly thought out comments as you can imagine (great blokes bless them)
      Being a practical solution focussed geeky public health/ policy analyst/data analysis/public money well spent type of nerd I think about 100 of us in NZ need some solid info on which to base our decision.
      1. How much shit does dope cause in NZ?
      2. What do we spend to clean up the shit caused by cannabis?
      3. How many people are on the stuff and how many more will be if its legalised?
      4. With increasing rates of hopelessness in NZ will the take up rate skyrocket? Is it a precursor drug that leads to P.
      5. Can a yes vote be reversed later?
      Chloe says legalise it so dope addicts can get help. But dont we spend billions on addiction services already?-way more than primary maternity.
      Is the only reason to legalise it so people can access help? Seems a bit lame Chloe. Are there really any pot smokers out there saying “oh man I hate this shit man, I really need help man, but man but Im just too scared man”
      Who are we NZ? A people who base important decisions on scant and incomplete data.

      1. I’ve got this one folks.

        1. How much shit does dope cause in NZ? 12 000 needless arrests EVERY SINGLE FUCKING YEAR for a product far less lethal than tobacco and alcohol. It also allows the Police vast search and surveillance powers through the good old, “I can smell pot” play. It’s valued as a billion dollar black industry that allows organised crime to flourish.

        2. What do we spend to clean up the shit caused by cannabis? We are looking at around $200m each year for the prosecution of cannabis.

        3. How many people are on the stuff and how many more will be if its legalised? 60% of NZ have tried cannabis

        4. With increasing rates of hopelessness in NZ will the take up rate skyrocket? Is it a precursor drug that leads to P. That question is remarkably stupid and suggest you have no comprehension of the difference between meth and THC.

        5. Can a yes vote be reversed later? The very basic premise of the NZ Parliamentary system using a one chamber westminster model means Parliament can always and will always be sovereign.

        1. wow-that was easy Martyn.
          “Next please!!”.
          You could save us an absolute fortune in the instant policy analysis unit at head office!
          FYI-precursor drug=”oh dude try P man way better than dope”

          1. Im pretty certain that an enormous amount of academic research shows alcohol is a gateway drug, not cannabis

    4. I must respond. As a so called dopehead and also pisshead of nearly 5 decades I can tell you arseholes that know zilch about it, yet seem to know everything that there is no damage, no addiction, no progression to meth etc. It’s all bullshit. Tell you what, just try it. If you like the effect a little booze has, then you’ll like it! Just have a little bit. And by the way, my boss knows I smoke it and I know he does (well used to) and nobody gives a toss. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

  2. The problem is that anyone who supports legalisation of cannabis can’t say so publicly because it is illegal. It is the same as putting a target on your back. Imagine, say, if one was to write a letter to the paper in support of legalisation and your boss reads it. Next thing you know, you are being asked to do a drug test.

    And imagine if you publicly start talking about how you actually enjoy taking cannabis because its a fun drug. Even those who support legalisation have to couch their language in negative language about it eg health issue.

    Maybe we need a campaign for legalisation that promotes it as a great way to get high.

  3. Bennett used scare tactics with bs like “cannabis cookies” and lollies infused with cannabis

    The other day I bought choclate biscuits with alcohol infused in them

    Hypocrisy rulez

    1. Bennett has admitting using it in her younger days. She may have ended up a better person if she continued using, given how she’s turned out.

  4. I suddenly feel far less optimistic then I used to about cannabis law reform in NZ. Those poll numbers are damning and reveal the massive conservative streak that runs across the electorate. My prediction is that this referendum will split largely along party lines at the next election but with older voters from all parties favoring a No vote. Since older voters are far more likely to turn up at the polling booth I do not think there will be a Yes vote for the cannabis referendum.
    The one thing that could change those numbers would be a trans-formative stance and campaign by the Labour government and Adern in particular but that would cost a lot of political capital and for what exactly? Keeping a small, largely unproductive – but very relaxed – portion of the electorate happy. On current form I don’t think the government will take the risk.
    It’s more probable that we will see incremental change and directives such as the one already given to police to shift the issue from criminal to health where possible.

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