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  1. This has to be the biggest load of rubbish I have ever read on The Daily Blog website.

    Don’t commit the crime and you won’t do the time its as simply as that.

    1. I’m, so this guy didn’t do the crime. He was framed. Kinda someone else, you know like the police forcing a false confession needs to do the time…because they committed a crime.

    2. to “The Truth” you are incorrect, because unless you are able to dis-prove the theories in this article you don’t have a leg to stand on. Real, high detailed, accurate data on exactly how our court systems operate in terms of Guilty/Not Guilty status, success rates, false confession rates etc, to the best of my knowledge has not been done. The hypothesis in the article is not disproven – it could be true.

  2. It appears there is a problem with the race ratio of incarceration. But is it “racist?” I am open to persuasion either way but the raw figures dont give me the detail. For example I suspect that if we did a correlation with the bottom 20 percent by income we might find a 50 / 50 ratio on racial incarceration rates. We might not. Who knows?

    The point Martyn is that its too easy to cheerlead a headline like this but it ends up getting buried because you cant answer causation questions. Then some RWNJ will say, “See told you so”. And we are no further ahead. Myself Im angry about the numbers because you dont get there if you dont do the crime AND I dont believe most crime is a result of individual predisposition to those behavoirs. Im confident that given the same circumstance it is likely Joe and Rangi will behave similarly. I could take a punt and say its likely a generational socio economic issue compounded by the lingering effects of colonisation. I suspect that theres plenty of empirical evidence from which you might draw more conclusive statements for a headline. But please Martyn dont leave yourself open to real racist counter attack.

  3. Maori will be imprisoned at the same rate as non-Maori when Maori reduce their crime rate to the same as non-Maori. There, FIFY.

    1. So its ‘ those’ people against ‘this ‘ people , is it , Middle?….

      You must have been brought up very sheltered, mate.

      Or did you read Mein Kampf and really believe in it?

    2. You reckon Man….could be other causes, and alternate results. Heres a possible scenario (to quote a great latter day poet)

      A street kid gets arrested, gonna do some time
      He got out three years from now just to commit more crime
      A businessman is caught with 24 kilos
      He’s out on bail and out of jail
      And that’s the way it goes
      Raah!

      Grandmaster Flash – White Lines .

  4. its a combination of living in poverty, their educational achievements aren’t enough, fewer opportunities to make a decent living if coming from a background in different forms of abuse. However the largest factor is due to the mainstream culture reinforcing themselves through all aspects of society. This leads to disenfranchisement from the outside groups (minority groups) and when someone is not deemed as worthy as the dominating culture, this gets internalised and becomes a self for filling prophecy. From previous laws, expectations and predudice from the dominating group…how can a minority group hope to overcome this culture when most of its members are clueless or are in a deliberate ignorance. There is lack of love, empathy and respect. This needs addressing.

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