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  1. We could have every working aged person employed in NZ and there would stll be the same child poverty .If the working parents are earning 1000 gross a week and paying 700 rent and tax thats 1 income gone then there is food and all other house hold expenses .And yes poor people on low incomes have the same basic expenses as a rich prick in botany with 7 fucking houses does .You know ,housing,food ,transport ,school ,medical,and the list goes on .
    FIX POVERTY AND NZ WILL BOOM .

  2. Nationalised ECE centres can use the BOT model that our schools currently use, that way they can slot right into the education system.

  3. “Child poverty” makes about as much sense as reverse psychology. I don’t know of too many kids who are poor when their parents are well off. Why don’t we just call it what it is, fucking poverty.

  4. While contraception obviously played a major role in limiting family sizes it was also possible for a working family to live on 1 income, purchase a house & thrive in life even with multiple children 60 years ago. Once the landlord class decided that getting others to pay for their extra houses that home-buying ability has continually reduced to higher income levels & those with access to parental support leading to the situation we are in today. I see that Stuff is still trying to inflate the bubble with their garbage reporting on Vinny Holloway & the mantra of increasing house prices which is probably a sign that the system is broken.

  5. If the government could run a programme to convince people not to breed until they can afford to support their children would be a good start .Then invest in education to open the door to better paying jobs. The richer people are the fewer kids they have which is why they stay wealthy.

    1. RIGHT on Trev!
      I didn’t get where I am today rooting my way to having the missus claiming the DPB. It was through good hard effort. I am the self made man, AND don’t I know it
      Only the wealthy should have kids – they are the deserving. We didn’t get where we are today eh?
      In fact, while we’re about it, we should probably use phrenology to determine whether or not some little 14 year old skank should be allowed to breed. I don’t want my taxes going to the undeserving.
      And if they do get though the deserving and undeserving filters, we could put ’em in the army for cannon fodder – their horrid dirty little offspring too. It’d be win win – in this space, going forward.
      Oh, AND when people do give birth, they’ll need to prove they rooted using the missionary position, and that the root took no longer than 10 minutes. Time is money
      (/sarc)

    2. “The richer people are the fewer kids they have which is why they stay wealthy”.

      The poorer people are the more kids they need in their old age!

      And once they are educated and have a better paying job who is going to do the job they used to do? Or you could pay everyone the same and everyone would be rich 🙂

  6. Kids are really really expensive and exhausting. you can’t just have 4 or 5 kids and expect to manage day to day bills.

  7. Thought experiment for a baby boom. Woman gets to choose.

    Option 1. Girlboss Working Mum. Have children, one-year maternity leave, keep working with free childcare.
    Option 2. Solo-Mum. Have children on the DPB. No named father.
    Option 3. Trad Mum. Have children, women stays home for 10 years while the father works and gets subsidised to receive 2 x his normal wage for 10 years.
    Option 4. UBI Mum. Have children, both parents get a UBI, one stay-at-home parent, father or mother can work.

    What percentage of women would choose each option?

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