NZ First are lying to you about Marsden Point

Let’s be 100% clear here.
NZ First are lying too you about Marsden Point being some sort of saviour right now.
It’s a god damned lie!
1 – Marsden Point refined oil, it didn’t magically make it! The price surge is happening because the Straits have been closed, that means even if Marsden Point were open, the oil still wouldn’t be getting shipped! Pretending that if it were open we would be more secure is just a total lie!
2 – It was going to cost $6billion to keep the Refinery open, something that Jones hilariously noted at the time…

…Shane blows whichever way the wind is blowing FFS!
3 – The reports all pointed to much cheaper and better alternatives to keeping Marsden Point open like more inland storage and more biofuels!
Pretending as if having Marsden open would do a bloody thing when there were cheaper vastly more efficient alternatives is a total falsehood on behalf of NZF.
Surely the lesson for NZ from what is happening in Iran right now is that we need to be self sufficient on electricity not more bloody oil!
New Zealand’s Growing Energy Vulnerability
At a time when the Government have dumped EV subsides and clean car subsidies, is investing in a multi-billion dollar gas scam and have avoided subsidising solar, we are faced with the perfect storm of oil price hikes.
Why the Strait of Hormuz Matters to New Zealand
Iranians are now mining the Strait of Hormuz – I think Trump has bitten off way more than he can chew – he has mistakenly believed Theocratic Religious Zealots could be as easily bullied as Corrupt Crony Revolutionary Venezuelans – this isn’t ending soon.
New Zealand’s Dangerous Reliance on Imported Fuel
The South Koreans are looking at ending refined oil exports, NZ gets 48% of our oil from them.
If they shut down exports, it will be crippling to NZ’s economy.
NZ has about 30 days of petrol on shore and a further 30 days in tankers heading here – BUT – those tankers can sell to other clients before they get to NZ, so we HOPE they come here, but if the situation goes longer, that oil can be sold before it gets here and they will turn around.
Fuel Security Warnings Already Given to Government
Bernard Hickey has the report on what shutting the Strait means for NZ’s fuel…
Report advised on Hormuz risks, including forecast of hit to GDP
An Advisory-Castalia report on Fuel Security for the Government last year considered the risk of a major disruption such as an extended closure of the Strait of Hormuz and estimated a GDP hit of upwards of 1% of GDP. It estimated prices would increase by twice as much as during the Ukraine crisis.
…I think the 1% GDP destruction is optimistic.
Trump has damaged so much with this illegal war.
Climate change is happening faster than predicted and its impacts are only going to cause geopolitical stresses to occur.
Electrification Is the Only Long-Term Solution
The solution is massive electrification of the NZ system so that we are not held hostage.
That means more electric cars, more electric car subsides, more solar, more solar panel subsides, wind and turbine energy creation.
We are refusing to acknowledge the massive change coming.
Rather than attempting to point score over Marsden Point, why won’t Shane engage in the actual issue?







I seem to recall that Let’s Pretend was a game we played as children so is well suited to Shane Jones! Marsden Point is NOT and never will be a lifeline – it is a money pit! We have plenty solar, wind and water alternatives so why aren’t we using them? In the meantime our super clown PM has escaped to the Islands to avoid questions he can’t answer and for more photo-shoots. While Hooton is demanding Hipkins apologize to Aucklanders for ‘supposed Covid lapses’ in a one off serious pandemic for which there was no blue-print! So Hooton assume you will be demanding Luxon and Willis apologize for the ferry fiasco and if course the gormless destruction of our economy along with the lives of many of our people, etc. etc. etc?
Shane Jones is frequently nowhere near the truth on a range of issues. Even Star of David Seymour is clear on why the refinery shut down. Let’s face it, if some private oil company was extracting truck loads of crude here, we would be paying the same price (especially in times of conflict) as someone on the other side of the planet, just like all the milk powder, beef and lamb that we pay through the arse for.
So true. It’s driving me nuts with the lies Shane Jones and Winston Peters are spewing. Marsden Pt was originally built by private interests and then the expansion the same. It has never been government owned. And as you point out it only ever refined oil that was transported from mostly the Middle East. We had a tiny bit of oil in NZ and all the drilling off the Taranaki Coast, including those with permits already existing which were allowed to continue after Labour banned offshore drilling have found not a cupful. We still rely on the oil from the Middle East.
It’s true that Marsden Point refined oil primarily from overseas, but that isn’t really the problem, is it?
The Iranian government has announced that any nation which expels the embassies of the terrorists and their American puppets from their country will be allowed to sail through the Straits unmolested. They’re doing good prices at the moment, and shipping more oil to China than before the enemy and their American dogs launched their terror attack.
Kicking out the yanks and their masters is something that we should have done already, and if we simply did that- and of course, had a refinery- we’d be sitting pretty.
Besides the urgent need to electrify Kiwi Rail and have subsidies to encourge people to install Solar EV .We need a government that scraps road user chargers on EVs ,hybrids while increasing them for gas guzzlers. For people addicted to driving Ford Rangers a Byd Shark ,a plug in hybrid out out accelerates a Ford Ranger and is cheaper to buy and run Ment to get 2 days running on electric motor around town on one charge .In the short term if Nz want acess to any oil in the Persian Golf Iran has said any country who cuts off diplomatic contact with Israel ,thier ships will be free to enter and leave the Persian Golf .Need a new foriegn affairs Minister
The roads need to be paid for so RUC for EV and PHEV vehicles are part of that equation. There might be a need for adjustment with the current PHEV rates where an allowance for petrol purchased and Km traveled is involved although that is getting a bit big brother state so might be hard to make work.
The most efficient Electric Vechical is an electric train .I have lived in Germany and visited many times Austria that has a small population and very mountainous terrain with an excellent electric train network its make more sense to electrify Kiwi rail and bring in passenger carriages besides carrying freight in Germany one can go anywhere from city to city and including train tram bus for 49 Euros a month .They even have big trucks operating a trolley system connecting to overhead electrification. Hydro electricity is one thing we have in Nz and this needs to be backed with incentatives for people to install Solar PV that can recharge ev cars ,Ute’s and vans We can do this if we elect honest politicians who have a long term plan for energy sustainability and resilience
How many million people live in Germany?