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  1. Regarding the immigration increases being pressured upon NZ – Also we advocate that the funding for building a solid working “climate change policy” and the funding into our ‘rebuild for immigration” and that the funding exclusively comes from those immigrants and definitely not “subsidised by the NZ taxpayer as usual is not ever abused yet again.

  2. Totally agree, keep borders closed. Apparently thousands of returnee’s are being bought in with massive demand that can not be filled. When the thousands of people come to NZ often on paid for passports, they have the ability to make infrastructure, health care, jobs, housing etc much worst for those already in the country in addition to the risks of Covid so it needs to be done carefully.

    There should also be a criteria of those who are citizens and strong ties to NZ coming home first (aka actually born and lived here for much of their lives), against the usual NZ neoliberal ‘bums on seats approach’ with people who bought Kiwi status on paper and obtained PR, visas and citizenship in the last decade, but after gaining their residency chose not to live here and now wants to come back with the relatives to shelter in NZ taking up the quarantine spaces while others can’t get in.

    Another bonus to

    We should not allow any of them back UNTIL

    Full Union membership for every International Student so they can’t be exploited.
    Removal of citizenship paths via students and migrant workers.
    Full Union membership for every migrant worker so they can’t be exploited.
    A boutique tourism experience that includes mandatory quarantine and a tourism tax.
    The infrastructure is built to handle and process mandatory quarantine.

    is that if we start getting foreign students for education only then it will also hopefully return our educational standards back to acceptable levels, remove the dumbing down and cheating, and improve student pastural care which seems very lacking in many woke/neoliberal focused universities.

    Universities seems prone to student deaths in sad circumstances under the foreign students bums of seats model which is also stopping domestic students from higher education.

    Student’s body went unnoticed in university hall for close to eight weeks
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/116071426/students-body-went-unnoticed-in-university-hall-for-close-to-8-weeks

    Canterbury University student Miwa Chapman died of meningococcal disease
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/119816026/canterbury-university-student-miwa-chapman-died-of-meningococcal-disease?rm=a

    CTV Building
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTV_Building

    1. I’m an immigrant and have lived here a thirty of my live now, but yes I agree, if people just return without giving any benefit to the country, then they shouldn’t bother. When we arrived we are put under a microscope and went trough a layer of rules and expectations to get where we are now. This is a safe country, yet the politicians make it more unsafe then any of the people. not talking about covid 19, but talking about what works out best for them, not for their constituents.

      When someone in politics makes a job for life, then it shows clearly a sudden unrightfully system. Why not put a time limit to the time a politician can serve in parliament and restrict the limits of perks. That will be the moment that you will find the real people caring politicians, that are really are looking about what is good for the country. But I guess, I better turn around and keep dreaming.

    2. +100 saveNZ…well said

      ….and especially “Removal of citizenship paths via students and migrant workers”.

  3. We have morality to think about. We should care about others who have been allowed or invited in and made us their country. We don’t want to be like Australians are to NZs. That would be sick. But we also have to be judicious. But just closing the border, the door in the face of people already with partners, children, jobs they were in and doing well, think again.

    It seems so easy to be two-faced turncoats for many NZs – hate unfair landlords who toss tenants out (and may have had good reason and right), but when we feel ownership over our border look stony-faced on people who need to be allowed back in. Oh what a turnaround – how well we can play the part of the objective decision-maker who knows what’s appropriate action and is not prepared to compromise. And I am just as anxious not to have Covid-19 community transmission as anybody else, and am trusting that we will do things morally and practically right here (with appropriate well-organised places for isolation), as long as Labour is in power that is.

  4. https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/first-up/audio/2018753969/to-extend-low-skilled-visas-or-not-recruit-train-nzers
    This looks fruitful for sensible decision making.
    Kiwis first – or continue to support non-citizens already here. It’s the debate raging over who should be prioritised when it comes to jobs. Amid mounting pressure, the government yesterday announced the 16 thousand 500 people on temporary work visas due to expire by the end of 2020, will have their visas extended by six months.

    And about 600 lower-skilled visa holders who are subject to a 12-month stand-down period and were going to have to leave, will also be able to stay for the duration of the extension. But Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says employers longer term focus should be on recruiting and training New Zealanders.

    Shortly we’ll be joined by former Immigration Minister Tuariki Delamere, who now runs an immigration consultancy. But first, Matthew Tukaki is the Chair of the National Maori Authority, he was also formerly the head of recruitment company Drake International Australia.

  5. “The tears of anguish from those who profit from hyper tourism, exploitation of International students and exploitation of Migrant workers taste delicious to me.”
    Me too. Non of these activities were ever politically mandated by the public of New Zealand. That they were slowly allowed to develop – particularly the education / for visa thing which was sneakily developed quite deliberately by government – has angered most kiwis ( NZ born citizens) for years.
    Yes it is time we rescued the goose that laid the golden eggs before all is ruined. And what better time than now to set the new pathway, while all is in disarray.

  6. If you want to stay inside like a hermit, so be it. Keep in mind, a vaccine is around the corner and the world doesn’t need you or care about you. If someone wants; they can simply invade and expel Europeans back to sea. Don’t be a cocky son of a bitch. You’re lucky that people like the natural beauty, and the Maori culture. No one is coming to NZ. The schools are ranked shit, the economy is crashing, and NZ doesn’t manufacture anything. No, no one should go there. And no one should fund NZ, give it loans, export goods and services, and allow you into their countries as well. The governor-general was right, this concept of public control leads to failed nationalism. The ruling elites must rule the masses as they just the reason why masses exist.

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