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  1. Well it IS an election year Bomber; this issue needs to be kept in the public eye and maximised.

    Now, what are those Greens up to with this?

  2. I think I will be voting Green…our so-called ‘swimable’ river is hardly there at all!…the same with another large (used to be) local ‘swimable’ river

    ….maybe they become absolutely ‘swimable’ when there is no water left?

    ….so how do you swim when there is no water?…do you become a flying fish?

    …this is theft of the commons from New Zealanders…and the Nact Party is the party of hoaxers and swindlers and fraudsters

    …btw the tourists especially from France …are NOT fooled

  3. Yes Martyn,

    It is astonishing that Nactional can even think that saying the rivers are clean when they will take over 100yrs to clean the bedded sediment sitting under the river beds.

    Senior well respected Massey University ecologist Mike Joy said the research showed the rivers were “a basket case”. “”At the high levels, you virtually have to get some in your mouth and you’ll get sick.”

    During the Manawatu River ‘among worst in the West’ debacle studies in 2009, Horizons planning and regulatory manager Greg Carlyon said “the nitrogen caps would get the river water only halfway to swimming quality over 20 years.”

    So we know it takes at least twice as long as Nactional says to get river water pollution down to “swimming” level.

    Just read any study document on river contamination runoff from farms, and roads, and they all confirm that the bedded sediment says there until removed and seeps out slowly over 100 yrs.’ so Nactional will be a laughing stock around the world.

    I am not a green party member but doing the 1999 to 2002 I was and then Rod Donald and Jeannette Fitzsimmons were hard on river water quality but we see little from them now.
    Lastly NIWA have produced a sad reminder of the real pollution from roads now that so far have not been considered by the government yet and this short note shows how bad the river pollution is now becoming, and this tyre/ and chemicals road runoff settles on the bottom of the rivers and leeches out into the water for many years so we are stuffed with the increased road use today and truck freight.

    https://www.niwa.co.nz/our-science/freshwater/tools/kaitiaki_tools/impacts/chemical-contaminates

    NIWA
    Chemical contamination
    Chemical contaminants are chemicals toxic to plants and animals in waterways.
    The phrase ‘chemical contamination’ is used to indicate situations where chemicals are either present where they shouldn’t be, or are at higher concentrations than they would naturally have occurred. Chemical contaminants can be found as organic and inorganic molecules in mass produced products used day to day by almost everybody. These include plastics, resins, pharmaceuticals, disinfectants, deodorants, detergents, petroleum products, road runoff, pesticides and biocides, along with the results of land fill and incineration.
    For many of these substances accumulation into aquatic environments can cause environmental problems, although some chemical contaminants do not damage the environment, and for many chemical contaminants the consequences are currently unknown. Chemical contaminants are often transported by water as it flows across the land, roads, and other impermeable surfaces. With little prior treatment, many of these contaminants may eventually discharge into waterways.
    Some contaminants can increase bacteria growth and oxygen consumption within a waterway. In extreme cases, such as a large spill of sewage or milk, low oxygen conditions may kill mahinga kai species. Lower levels of nutrient contamination in waterways can result in eutrophication. Most eutrophication is due to the inorganic nutrients nitrate and phosphate that induce the growth of algae. The algae subsequently die, resulting in more organic matter and low oxygen conditions.
    Find out more about eutrophication
    Find out more about nutrient overloading

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  4. With that one announcement many NZ lakes and rivers have suddenly been made “cleaner” according to the new standards. What a cunning strategy, moving the goal posts. National are good at that, let us remember also the changes to much other data and how it is used.

    Nick the Dick has done it again.

    Let him have a dip in the Mangere sewage ponds, I am sure he will find it “swimmable” also.

    More help for Federated Farmers and their members, lowering the standards for ecoli and so forth, so they don not have to try all too hard to clean up streams and lakes.

    By the way, does anybody really believe NZ is one of the least corrupt countries on this planet?

  5. ” …right, so the Government have just renamed cow shit in water as ‘candyfloss’. Next they’ll eliminate all murder by redefining it as involuntary death and children in poverty will now be called ‘Future Jobseekers ’’.

    L0L!

    I love it!

    And that’s a bout the size of these liars… Im getting a little fed up with being soft on these scumbags … its just so hard to play the game with these degenerates and their PC garbage and still be polite and above reproach when day in and day out we are subject to this constant barrage of outright fabrications and fairy story’s.

    Keep calling these neo liberals out , Martyn and … I reckon … a few posters up around town and on a few Varsity walls would stimulate a few laughs and some serious discussions, I would think…

    Titles could be ,…

    ‘ HAve A diP wIth nIck ‘

    Or,….

    ‘ Its gReAt tO be gReEN wiTh tHe nAtIonAL pArTY tEam’…

    Or even ,…

    ‘wE dOnt GivE a cOwSHit aBout yOur NeeD tO sKInNyDip’

    Reckon it’d catch on fast …

  6. Swimable rivers WAS a big part of the election campaign 4 years ago – oh how quickly we forget! I did vote for them because of this stance. Water is life – without it and our environment we are in deep s***.
    So simple real, but still people can’t get there head around it.

  7. Swimable rivers WAS a big part of the Greens election campaign four years ago – oh how quickly we forget! I did vote for the greens because of this stance. Water is life – without it and our environment we are in deep s***.
    So simple real, but still people can’t get there head around it.

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