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  1. The formation of the NZCTU was one of the most significant class errors of the late 20th century. A leader does not stand placidly by and bemoan the support level, they get out there and organise and fight and build it. The natzos WERE expecting national action and could not believe their luck when it did not happen and the NZ working class has suffered from that first union busting ECA ever since. I was not all down to Douglas though–there were plenty of other lily livered tops in the state sector unions and more right wing private sector unions that backed him, despite their members marching against the ECA as John says.

    I was on those marches my self and at the special affiliates meeting in Wellington where the sell out was narrowly endorsed my Union Secretaries. The vote should have been taken at mass meetings of members.

    I had the great pleasure at Jim Knox’s memorial service in Auckland, to see ’51 Waterfront Lockout leader Jock Barnes lambast Douglas in the most excoriating way for his class collaborationist behaviour. A number of the Labour people in the media today praising Ken Douglas, could not handle Jock’s honesty on that day.

    The NZCTU under Douglas, Foulkes, and the rest pursued Tri Partism–i.e. partnership with employers–positive engagement with the very people that wanted to destroy unionism was never going to happen!

    Agree with John Minto that whatever good Ken might have done in earlier days in the Wellington Drivers Union was negated by his turning from marxism to Blairism basically, which he never had the courtesy to inform his SUP colleagues of. The oldest question of people in politics–“did they go bad or were they always bad?”.

    NZ workers need a class left fighting central labour organisation like the old FOL a place that will encourage todays new gen workers start to get organised and take on the employing class. Srikes all around Auckland packaging, a 6 week lockout of pulp and paper workers, pickets at Sky City and Union legal action against Uber on driver status show the employing class never sleeps so neither can the working class.

    1. It seemed that unionists allowed their sharp minds to be blunted – revisionism became the order of the day. Critical opinion should have been encouraged at special yearly meetings and tested by following through an idea to its likely conclusion, testing it also against what values the unions wanted to uphold for themselves, the country and the world.

      Unions would sing the Internationale so world matters were important and retaining balance also. Sticking to the knitting would have meant saying NO we must seek a better way. And the democratic power should have been extended to the members being able to overturn the wrong decision of the leader. You were caught in a trap of your own making. The Charge of the Light-Headed Brigade. It’s true isn’t it; admit it after your first and second spurt of anger.

      2016 They sang The Internationale as a street choir.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERDFCb11y5g
      Billy Bragg is closely connected with presenting this anthem.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmHePb-rGkM

      And Fanfare for the Common Man (watching and listening makes you feel proud to be common) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2zurZig4L8

  2. I agree John. I was a national delegate in the PSA at the time. Even the most conservative members were geared and ready to strike. We were appalled at the decision to capitulate. It wrecked membership trust in unions for decades.

    I feel for his family’s grief, but find no warmth for him at all. His legacy was our tepid unionism that is only just beginning to rise again.

  3. In 1991 the workers lost out completely but they have themselves to blame as the general public were tired of the constant disruption to their lives. Rail strikes and ferry strikes always at school holidays freezing workers on strike when farmers wanted to get stock slaughtered dockers constantly stopping vial overseas stock from being landed. Following on from the 1984 Labour government changes the National government had the opportunity to break the unions and they took it . This has lead to 30 years of a low wage economy supported by both Labour and National governments. I see signs of that situation slowly changing as we restart the economy after covid .
    The party that can help,that situation needs to win in 2023 for wrkers to improve their lot .

    1. Note that prior to the ECA, there was no child poverty, and no homelessness. Every single worker got a decent pay rise every single year, and no workers were treated like dirt by their bosses like they do now. In hospitality, especially, you didnt have sweatshop conditions. In addtion, workers got loaded up with perks and allowances. You dont get that now. Workers get bugger all really. And it is people like you that voted to get all that taken away, because some rich pricks pleaded poverty.

      I bet you withheld payrises for your workers so you could afford a Ford Ranger.

      1. All my staff got over the union advised pay rate and a bonus at Xmas in return I expected hard work and good time keeping. When I managed a KFC branch with 32 staff only 1 left in 9 months as they enjoyed working with a boss that respected them .
        I worked hard for what I had . Can you say the same or are you just a bitter person full of envy

        1. Oh please with envy argument. It’s so shallow personal attack and all it does is demonstrate your utter disregard to up lift the poor, or anything but contempt for those who are not greedy.

          1. So how many jobs have you created to help the poor ..
            How come it is ok for Millsy to attack me personally .

          2. Is it only jobs we need to create to up lift the poor? I think not, breaking the chains which keep them in poverty is one. Offering them the ability and skills to keep out of the trap of poverty is another. How many have I helped here, far far more than you have by your creation of jobs.

            Such a narrow focus from you Trevor.

            As for your strawman about Millsy, never said it was OK for Millsy to attack you personally. So that whole poor me shtick, is a bit much. Don’t you think?

  4. Might be off topic but years back Ken was hugely over weight. He was sitting on a bus next to me and was talking about an upcoming new fangled stomach surgery for weight loss. It obviously worked for him and gave him years. That may not please all on this column but I’d like to think that all those who need this can get it.

    1. Let me assure you that you either pay for stomach surgery about $30,000 I think or you lie on the waiting list which is quite long. I worked at the ADHB and remember seeing the short list of likely candidates, their weights and their other conditions. It was a lottery there are not that many carried out in a year.

  5. The debate over whether a national strike should have been called in ’91 usually glosses over the most relevant factor. And that was that the working class had abandoned the Labour Party at that time, and by association, were not overwhelmingly trusting of organised labour.

    It is know commonly accepted that National may have watered down the ECA if there were strong protests. However, what no one knows is what would have happened if there were protests and they failed. A far worse ECA was possible.

    Ken’s cautious position had majority support in the wider union leaderships. It was democratic decision, not the whim of one man.

    Personally, I liked Ken and found him to be honest, smart and supportive. Not an angel, by any means, but not the sole reason unions have been doing it tough from the 80’s on, either.

  6. I marched prior to the bill – I went on strike for 7 weeks in 92 to retain a national collective – this strike was seen as a challenge to the new legislation (ERA) – but again the will of the members and delegates was not enough to stop the sell out union leadership of Alan Weir & Rex Jones comrades in arms with Douglas and Faulkes and when Douglas became involved with our struggle I new we were fucked.
    Some did stand up like the great Bill Andersen but sadly most leaders lacked the fortitude or guts to join the fight.
    We are now left with what scraps this right wing govt throws at us like the FPA and the diabolical new tax on workers – social insurance scheme and still the leadrship is lacking in the bosses CTU.
    As for Douglas, I will sheed no tear on his passing. Spot on John Minto.

  7. Of course i ask my boss for a pay rise every new financial year at the inflation rate rate, and of course get laughed at, or basic these days f— off.
    How in the beginning of the formation of the Union Movement, did the Movement progress its fair claims for its members, was with one basic right, the right to withdraw its labour, or other forms of industrial action, that is how many just claims were won and hard won by many hardship on the members. As mentioned, since the 90!s workers right!s and wages have progressed minimal.
    By the by John, i was a organizer for a Union, who defied the then new C.T.U. AND REFUSED TO BE AFFILIATED. As for Ken, he was of the opinion that forming the new C.T.U. THEY WOULD NOT BE INDUSTRIALLY STRONG ENOUGH for a protracted national action.

  8. socialist, barriers,eh.Humanity,how your intelect of humanity greeds barriers of their protection exploits.

  9. Knowing about Ken,he seeing you never forget your face, and name, photo thing he had, yet more important, socialism.

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