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  1. I live with my husband of almost 55 years and receive half of the married rate in my name, but if we were 2 friends sharing the house, but not living in a married state, we would each receive the single pension, but not of course the living alone allowance. We would be better off by aroubd $200 per fortnight ax far as I can see. We are taxed individually, but when living in the nature of a marriage are counted as 1 unit for income. Not right.

    1. Dorothy
      you are so right. The distinction between single sharing and married is ridiculous, but at least you are not jointly income-tested. In the case before the courts a woman on NZS, been all her life in NZ, is not only reduced to the married rate when she partners, but if her new spouse is from a country like Canada or US or Germany with their own pension she might find she will get no NZS at all. His pension is deducted dollar for dollar from hers if he is not entitled to NZS himself. If he is entitled to NZS, his pension is offset against his NZS and any excess deducted from hers.

  2. (Apologies if this has already come through – having trouble posting )
    I have just been right through to the Social Security Appeals Authority with my Father (who was lived and worked very hard all of his life in NZ) who is on a half married rate pension (so less than the single pension) from which his overseas partners pension is then deducted from, leaving $290 a week for both of them to somehow live on. AND the SSAA agreed that yes this was unjust, unfair and not what parliament had intended for s (70) of the act – but then , refused to remedy this (by using s (70) 2 which allows room to remedy) because the situation was not “extreme” enough.. I cannot figure how the SSAA determine $31,000 (10 years @ $3,100 a year) is not extreme enough to a couple who are trying to live on $290 a week..

  3. I am familiar with such stories, it makes me throw up!

    You can bet also, same as that Christchurch government department supposed to look after earth quake victims, same also as some victims of abuse while in state care, that many beneficiaries who are being investigated, are being observed and checked on by private investigators.

    They are paid for by ALL OF US as tax payers, same as Crown Law are paid by us.

    Yet when people are in the worst possible situations in their lives, the state, e.g. WINZ, does hammer and punish them, while they should be offered fair and reasonable assistance.

    It is a disgrace what goes on in this country, that calls itself so ‘fair’ and ‘equal’ (those promoting it), and supposedly gives ‘everybody a chance’.

    As a matter of fact this state is little different to any other state in the world, I mean OECD member states and beyond, where the state uses every power available, to keep people away from them, when they try to get resolution for their grievances.

    I want to know, what is this new ‘MMP’ government coalition going to do? Are you going to bring back easier access to legal aid for those unable to afford expensive legal advice and representation? Are you going to reverse the hideous welfare ‘reform’ changes the last government brought in in 2013? Are you going to create a new system that offers more fairness and that listens to the people, or are you finding every excuse under the sun, why you cannot turn back the wheel and are ‘stuck’ with the law that now exists???

    Jacinda, Winston and James, we are waiting for answers, now.

  4. Let’s face it, after decades of neoliberal ‘reforms’, loosening up restrictions on the employment and other markets, this country has become more primitive again, backward in a way.

    We even have a return to child labour now, another symptom of a failed society.

    People are denied benefits, benefits are insufficient to live from and any job is ‘good enough’ for WINZ case managers.

    You will though end up competing with immigrants desperate to get any job and to get PR, and even their kids:
    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2018/03/13/child-labour-in-new-zealand-not-only-a-thing-of-the-past-although-not-widespread-alive-and-well-in-nz-in-2018-special-post/

    1. Nobody seems to care about migrant kids being exploited, as it does not fit the political narrative of this government and some activists, what a shame.

  5. Would be nice if public servants ditched their devotion to neoliberal propaganda and became – again – servants of the public good.

  6. “Just as Jacinda can improve Niuean pensions overnight, she could abolish the spousal deduction rule immediately.”

    So what’s her stance on the matter then?

    1. Good question. We are asking her.
      It is not good for democracy to have such an obvious anomaly uncorrected for decades

      1. Well, that’s the usual response: we’ve heard it for years, and yet – it’s an inappropriate response because there are many other ‘cases’ that are not before any court.

        And it would be jusy great if they cleaned up the legislation and the regulations and all the other nit-picking stuff – and required that these gravy trains on a loop track were halted forthwith with the victims of Kafka’s ‘The Trial’ recompensed and set free.

        Now, if the Crown could only afford to spend the same as a complainant, and had to settle or pay a hefty discouragement, we tax payers (which includes every single beneficiary in this country) could at last feel justice was blind, fair and even-handed instead of rigged for the deepest pockets.

        PS I’m not holding my breath for Labour to fix this. They never ever reversed Ruth Richardson’s scrimping, even when times were better. Different flock; same tar.

    2. THE CHAIRMAN : YOU ARE RIGHT OF COURSE.

      IT just goes to PROVE that what is termed as” Prime Minister” today, is NOTHING MORE THAN an already pre – planned Figurehead of… a Business Corporation.

      NZ Government is merely a Corporation. A Business entity. $$$

      (NOTICE HOW “NZ NEWS Media ” OMITTED to tell the PUBLIC , that the picture / Rules of the Game changed. LONG AGO..

      Yes NZME (and notice how they’ve amalgamated, and gathered up ALL local papers also )…Another Business Entity / spokesperson for Govt Corporation

      **************************

      DO NOT EXPECT “NZ GOVT” (with squiggly line underneath, =business Logo.).to address any REAL HUMAN Concerns.
      They will pretend to , via double talk , deceptive marketing speech, as well as
      have the PM going along to BBQs ,etc (Frivolous stuff which seems to work for the shallow minded)

      BUT NOTHING WILL IMPROVE, in the long run.

  7. Gee give her time she has so much mess to fix she was there (on the islands) the policy was introduced what are our priorities here do you have somewhere to live mr chairman cause many don’t.
    The vultures are circling the islands giving them loans they probably cant afford to pay back.

    1. No, no. This mess will do me. As Prime Minister you don’t get to fall short. Jacinda is the Alpha and omega, there fore the 9th floor must be a force to be reckoned with.

  8. This article has significant bias and in this instance (sorry to say as I admire your work) is badly informed.

    For a start Niueans are NZ citizens. It is ridiculous to expect they have to move into NZ itself to get their pension, which was why the changes were put forward.

    Their pension is the same as our pension including bizzare rules regarding overseas spousal pensions.

    I also take issue with your statement that suggests the review system for MSD is unfair. Yes, there are some injustices, but to suggest beneficiaries have almost no chance implies barriers that simply do not exist and are not supported by statistics.

    You are unlikely to win on the papers, ie if you don’t show up in person to put your case forward, but this is true of all legal proceedings.

  9. Isnt that the point- their treatment (Nuiean pensioners) was ridiculous. It was solved by political decree not court time.
    The spousal deduction is ridiculous too and it cant be solved by the processes people are supposed to go through.
    I wish the HR case a good solution of course– but immediate action is called for and a new government is the one to do it

  10. NZ is a joke, so is this government, and Susan St John is a joke also, as she can go on about this, but she well knows nothing is going to change, even with her connections to Catriona Mc Lennan and QC Joychild. They are minority, the establishment does not give a crap, and will all continue as usual, I know, as I have been trhough it, this total BS country we have, total BS.

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