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  1. I see the new conservatives have been out with there ‘say nope to dope’ signs. Thank goodness this lot won’t make it into parliament they are sick people. This lot are living in the past we only have to look at their divisive backward thinking policies. Those opposing the cannabis referendum need to look at the other more serious problems plaguing our country, alcohol, pokies, P and porn availability these are very widespread .

  2. Hi Chris, the yes campaign is a total joke where is the voice of the people?? We get Helen Clark, Hine Elder and other non-cannabis users mostly other white women giving their voice to it. But where are the voice of Maori women and the voice of actual people who use cannabis regularly to self-medicate, use for recreational and want to be able to access medicinal CBD in other product forms like edibles, etc?? Basic social media 101 where is the digital avatar for people to update their Facebook profiles? I mean who the af is running the social media campaign its absolute rubbish. Everyone I know is going to vote yes however we need to the rest of the country on board so how about you ask for some actual digital advertising and promotion that people can 1) update their FB profiles so that their group of friend and whanau can see that they are voiting yes, stop with the white women promoting bs and get stoner voices involved and provide better digital content i.e. avatars, things people can post to their Facebook.
    thanks Tui

    1. I think the truth is regular cannabis users dont come across as good models. It would be like promoting alcohol use by trotting out alcoholics!

      1 Many stoners have undiagnosed conditions like asd, adhd, ptsd and food intolerances ie celiac that are medically unattended and these psychiatric deficits that would be incorrectly thought of as a product of cannabis use. These cannabis users who lost the genetic lottery would drag down the reputation of cannabis, due to ignorance and lack of understanding of this type of self medicating user.

      2 Many other stoners fall on the other side of the spectrum. They are extremely high functioning and genetically superior models of human kind. These fortunate peeps who won the genetic lottery are just as fillified by authorities as they tend to be non authoritarian and constantly challenge bullshit,, so they are often shunted off into gangs and problematic use. Dark skinned users fall into this category due to their often superior genetic expression over degenerated caucasian gene pools. So promoting problematic use within these groups is sort of like quelling revolution by pacifying the slaves in Jamaica when pot was let loose there.

      A ‘nut job’ or a ‘gang associate’ or ‘just healthy polynesian users’ would not help the cause.
      And just like an alcoholic, their problematic use is a condition of genes lying outside of the accepted norm of middle NZ’s ideal authoritarian loving role model citizens.

      1. Not so, there are plenty of professionals and people in high places who are regular users but don’t want to come out to preserve their professional and personal reputations. That stilts the perception of who the users are.

        1. I agree Festus sounds a bit like his first group of undiagnosed nut jobs.
          Though in his favour,, if you have ever gone to The Daktory or a J Day it is quite evident that middle nz is barely represented at these gatherings. These are mostly the high use / problematic use users with genetic expressions below and above the norm,, and as such vilified by the mainstream.

          The mainstream moral judgements imposed on outsiders, could be considered sociopathic in this regard, no empathy for those outside of the mean of acceptable genetic expression, including racism.

          However regarding winning a referendum, winning the perception of middle nz is important. I note the newly running WEDO campaign is using billboards highlighting these normal everyday users. I just saw a receptionist and a neuroscientist on a billboard outside countdown this morning.

          Living in Grey Lynn, I also note all my neighbours who own 2mill $$ homes are healthy social users too.

    2. Tui I think you are outing an ongoing issue in the so-called cannabis ‘debate’ – hopers are muted in their perspective because of the legal status of the drug. Sure there might be a few hopers who use and articulate sound reasons for doing so – but don’t knock the hand that feeds you. Ms Clark and co are hopers and we need all the support we can get because the nopers have such an advantage. They can talk crap and hopers cannot respond in a timely and open manner for fear of the repercussions.
      Let’s hope we get a great youth turnout for the election, because it is the youth vote that might get the hopers across the line. Unfortunately, given the uneven playing surface, I am not holding my breath (no pun intended!).

    3. ” It was understood and expressed that you have to control people through beliefs and attitudes. Well, one of the best ways to control people in terms of attitudes is by what the great political economist Thorstein Veblen called “fabricating consumers.” If you can fabricate wants, make obtaining things that are just about within your reach the essence of life, they’re going to be trapped into becoming consumers. You read the business press in the 1920’s and it talks about the need to direct people to the superficial things of life, like “fashionable consumption,” and that’ll keep them out of our hair. In fact, Bernays had major achievements in his lifetime that are worth looking at. The first of them was to get women to smoke.”
      Requiem for the American Dream – The 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power ; Noam Chomsky.

  3. Yes Chris it is a fight of good vs evil.
    But its also a fight of ignorance vs understanding.

    Babylon runs on chaos and Rastafarian narratives highlight this at every opportunity. Rasta reasonings often use the ancient texts to understand how this manifests in every aspect of the modern and ancient world.

    There is nothing new under this sun and to me this campaign highlights the problems of dishonesty in man. The microcosm is the macrocosm, and maybe if the cage door was left open, many of NZ voters would choose to remain shackled in denial rather than take response-ability for their own destiny and choices, relying on those in authority.

    Dopamine flooding is very tempting, but like all denials of short term gratification, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    There is very little money to be gleaned from people who are not neurotic and possessed, in need of a dopamine fix from being right, putting others down, gossip, shopping, sports, power, food, sex and drugs.

    The dopamine levels of those in love with only immateriality is constant, as long as this love of the immaterial is constant.

    True freedom comes from healthy balanced use and/or denial of things which generate dopaminergic activity, which correlates to a healthy balance understanding of Christian sin or Buddhist ignorance.

    The middle way is always the only real freedom.

  4. it is great to see in todays Press an advert for NO TO DOPE by real people from all walks of life . No American religious just Doctors Sports people and community leaders mental health workers. The current system is not perfect and the racist overtones need to be adressed but making it legal is a step to far

    1. Doctors and mental health workers make money from prescribing recently man made and dangerous synthetic drugs with horrifying side effects,, and vilifying natural and safe herbal substances that have been made by god and been around forever.
      Its great like you said, but for those who to wish to continue to make money off illness and disease.

      And if you look at rape on college campuses in the USA, the sports jocks are MASSIVELY represented in over 80% of cases, even though they are only 15% of the campus population. They have a horrendous abusive drinking culture too, like the military jocks.

      Hardly surprising these types of NZers who are addicted to an authoritarian system that provides them income,, and dopamine hits from incorrectly being right, that they stand up to continue their denial of real truth.

      Lying provides a rush, and an addiction to lying is prevalent among overweight trump supporters. They get a dopamine fix when they lie or go to a rally…

  5. it is great to see in todays Press an advert for NO TO DOPE by real people from all walks of life . No American religious just Doctors Sports people and community leaders mental health workers. The current system is not perfect and the racist overtones need to be adressed but making it legal is a step to far

    1. So are you a real person Trev? Dope is stigmatised and many people that smoke it are stereotyped when in fact as mentioned many go to work and pay their taxes. Also what people do in their own home is their own business as are they hurting anyone but themselves? We have a bad culture of Polypharmacy in this country benefitting pharmaceutical companies who are creaming it. And in the meantime peoples quality of life is not getting any better they are just prolonging the inevitable by taking far too many pills.

  6. should start a fund page, the problem here is that fund is owned now by a few rich listers that have all kinds of access to the medicinal suppliers and have large interest in chemical cannabis and vaccines.

  7. Chris Fowlie your skills, perception, knowledge, and actions are so clear, filled with ‘common-sense”, and accurate. oh i wish we could clone you, šŸ˜‰ , to add to the arsenal of bringing the truth, health and safety to the masses to dispel the fear, lies and harm caused by the Nopers. NZ will one day be sooo grateful for your input and leadership. I hope and work to make that gratitude be displayed on Voting day. If the Govt sets up a Ministry of cannabis , you should be CEO. kia kaha wazza

  8. ‘Rather than building agreement so we can all move forward, that position actually cedes ground to the Nopers, and frames the discussion as ā€œcannabis is harmfulā€. It implies that all use is harmful, and that strong intervention by state agencies is justified and desirable.

    Yet the truth is that the vast majority of cannabis use is not harmful, and no intervention is justified. The Otago and Christchurch longitudinal studies, for example, found that up to 80% of New Zealanders have tried cannabis (so it is normal), but only around 10 per cent or so experience harms from their use.’

    For an incredibly good and stirring 18min watch regarding addiction, check out Gabor Mate, esp the TEDtalk – The power of addiction and the addiction of power

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66cYcSak6nE

    most addicts are criminalized because they have had abusive childhoods

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