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  1. Human pair bonding remains a mysterious phenomenon–and I am no incel–having had partners for most of my life by choice.

    The existential loneliness of our one way journey to the dark end that awaits us all drives the need for companionship perhaps. But Jeezus effing Christ, who on TDB would want to go through what Depp and Heard are at the moment?

  2. The “believe the ..,[women/children/patient etc] ” slogans as an inviolate imperative have been a phenomenon for decades, my entire adult life. They’ve been thrown around since the late seventies, amplified in eighties and onwards.
    They’re not a new “woke” phenomenon.
    Peter Ellis and others fell victim to the hounds of righteous dogma in the early nineties.
    Our laws of evidence and the presumption of innocence in criminal law have also been mauled in the area of sexual politics.
    Miscarriages of Justice will continue to result.

  3. If the Heard v. Depp case shows us anything, it is the toxic nature of celebrity culture and the Hollyweird system. These are two deeply broken people with serious problems. I might prefer Depp to win because I find him actually entertaining, and prefer Heard to lose because she portrayed a two-way s**tshow as akin to the kind of abuse that I’m sure she actually did suffer in her early career on the casting couch, but it doesn’t make him a hero to worship or her a wicked succubus- he’s as screwed up by his involvement in the system as she is.

  4. Pass the fucking popcorn!
    Meanwhile …….. the Planet burns; the homeless have even less chance of being housed and fed; povvidy statistics worsen: NuZull’s own Salem witch trials gain pace; politicians and Peter Principled bureaucrats call for reports while they wonder why people ditch the faith and opt for other religious and cult options ,,,,

    Sorry, but I see a bit of a bit of humour in it all

  5. Did this case not start out with more than one of Depp’s exes accusing this guy of battering them, or was it merely Amber all along?

    Regardless of that, both people involved in this case appear to have entitlement and anger issues.

    Furthermore, I don’t feel that the media should have been allowed basically to roam free throughout the case. Intimate details have been leaked, privacy safeguards ought to have been put into place, and Amber Heard probably has a very good claim to take legal action against the media as they have reported details which aren’t in the public interest to know.

    Moreover, what have Amber Heard’s previous relationships been like? I do not recall a bevy of males attesting to being victims of domestic violence at the hands of this woman. That she is also being categorized as a socially savvy manipulative actress is beyond believable.

    What I remember most about the lead up to the trial is the tear stained face of Amber Heard and that is was due to emotional distress. It didn’t convince me of her innocence, however, as I’ve always seen both of them as protagonists.

  6. The reality is they are both as bad as each other.

    None look like they smell of roses!

    The problem with criminalising stupidity (throwing a phone in anger) is that this is something quite a lot of the population has probably done to someone else and while stupid and bad and thoughtless, should not be criminalised. Likewise pooping in bed, (hopefully less of the population but nether the less not criminal).

    Trivial cases, then minimalises the criteria and message for domestic violence and increases police call outs and paper work, when the worried well ring the police every domestic disagreement or use it to get child custody. (I know a professional who rang the police because their spouse refused to get out of their jointly owned bed). Police refused to come, but maybe now they do!

    Public Funds need to go the medium and worst abuses and encourage people with minor disagreements to sort their differences out without a decade long battle in court against each other – without much evidence anything real happened apart from growing to hate each other. (Also not a crime).

  7. I think many people are missing the big picture here. Even if people believe Depp/Heard abused each other, (I don’t agree but it’s beside the point), Amber had every right to publish an article about her own experiences from her perspective. She didn’t even mention Depp and mainly wrote about different periods of her life.

    That article was what she was sued over. Imagine if you Martyn, or any commenter here for that matter, got sued for calling out a politician or speaking out about your bad experiences with someone without even naming them. That’s essentially what happened and it’s a bloody slippery slope when rich white guys use their wealth to shut down freedom of speech and launch a misinformation smear campaign.

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